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I'm having a little trouble understanding these tenses.  Probably because o=
f
my english.  If I see {mi citka ba lo nu mi xagji} I see how {ba} is saying
that the {citka} happens "after" the event of me being hungry.  So {ba}
relates two things the selbri and the thing that comes after the {ba}.  But
how does that work with something like an event contour like {mo'u}?
 There's only one thing in the relationship of {mo'u} and it's the thing
that is at its natural ending point.  Is it possible for X to be at it's
natural ending point in relation to Y?  And what would that mean anyway?
 How does Y come into play with regard to the main selbri?

I think whatever it is, I would agree with you xorxes.  A tag effects the
main selbri, not the thing after the tag.  {mi citka mo'u lo nu mi xagji} i=
s
saying that I am at the natural ending point of eating <some relationship>
the event of me being hungry.

2010/10/11 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> 2010/10/11 Krzysztof Sobolewski <jezuch@interia.pl>:
> >
> > OK, so I agree exceptions are out of the question. But could it be
> possible to massage the general rule somewhat to make it more, let's say,
> intuitive, in the sense "how a newbie would understand it"? :)
>
> The general rule is:  <tag> <selbri> =3D <tag> zo'e <selbri>.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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I&#39;m having a little trouble understanding these tenses. =A0Probably bec=
ause of my english. =A0If I see {mi citka ba lo nu mi xagji} I see how {ba}=
 is saying that the {citka} happens &quot;after&quot; the event of me being=
 hungry. =A0So {ba} relates two things the selbri and the thing that comes =
after the {ba}. =A0But how does that work with something like an event cont=
our like {mo&#39;u}? =A0There&#39;s only one thing in the relationship of {=
mo&#39;u} and it&#39;s the thing that is at its natural ending point. =A0Is=
 it possible for X to be at it&#39;s natural ending point in relation to Y?=
 =A0And what would that mean anyway? =A0How does Y come into play with rega=
rd to the main selbri?<div>
<br></div><div>I think whatever it is, I would agree with you xorxes. =A0A =
tag effects the main selbri, not the thing after the tag. =A0{mi citka mo&#=
39;u lo nu mi xagji} is saying that I am at the natural ending point of eat=
ing &lt;some relationship&gt; the event of me being hungry.<br>
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/10/11 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">2010/10/11 Krzysztof Sobolewski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jez=
uch@interia.pl">jezuch@interia.pl</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt; OK, so I agree exceptions are out of the quest=
ion. But could it be possible to massage the general rule somewhat to make =
it more, let&#39;s say, intuitive, in the sense &quot;how a newbie would un=
derstand it&quot;? :)<br>

<br>
</div>The general rule is: =A0&lt;tag&gt; &lt;selbri&gt; =3D &lt;tag&gt; zo=
&#39;e &lt;selbri&gt;.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
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