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On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 07:17:54PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > Here it is. It's simple:
> >
> > Always begin all jufra with {.i} or {ni'o}. This includes the
> > first utterance. This enables one to easily determine whether
> > something said is intended as a continuation of the previous
> > speaker's jufra or starting a new one.
>
> Oh for crying out loud.
>
> First of all, what the *hell* is this doing in lojban-beginners??
> Language proposals *do not belong here*.
>
> > Benefits:
> >
> > One person can easily complete another's jufra by merely not beginning
> with
> > {.i}.
>
> That's not a benefit, that's horrifyingly awful.
>

.i.ienaicai .i lu lo verba cu cusku lu .i viska lo melbi .yyyy. li'u .i lo
vy. mamta cu cusku lu toldi li'u li'u mupli loka xamgu

Secondly, if you continue someone else's sentence, *you're being a
> dick*, just like in English.


.i.ienai .i xu do pensi lodu'u lo mi mupli pe lo mamta tolclite


> If you really need to do so, just use
> {.i go'i blah blah}.
>

.i.ienaicu'i .i mi lazni


> New speakers are speaking new utterances, because anything else is
> confusing and obnoxious.  Period.


.i mi na tavla lonu cnino se cusku .i mi tavla lonu cnino jufra


>  And this discussion doesn't
> belong here.
>

.i.ie jetnu .ije mi pensi lodu'u lo vi nuncasnu na cmima lo liste pe byfy.
.i lo vi nuncasnu cu cmima lo liste pe ma


> -Robin
>
> --
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> Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot
> is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false"
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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do
zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Robin L=
ee Powell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.o=
rg">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
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<div class=3D"im">On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 07:17:54PM -0600, Jonathan Jones =
wrote:<br>
&gt; Here it is. It&#39;s simple:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Always begin all jufra with {.i} or {ni&#39;o}. This includes the<br>
&gt; first utterance. This enables one to easily determine whether<br>
&gt; something said is intended as a continuation of the previous<br>
&gt; speaker&#39;s jufra or starting a new one.<br>
<br>
</div>Oh for crying out loud.<br>
<br>
First of all, what the *hell* is this doing in lojban-beginners??<br>
Language proposals *do not belong here*.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Benefits:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; One person can easily complete another&#39;s jufra by merely not begin=
ning with<br>
&gt; {.i}.<br>
<br>
</div>That&#39;s not a benefit, that&#39;s horrifyingly awful.<br></blockqu=
ote><div><br>.i.ienaicai .i lu lo verba cu cusku lu .i viska lo melbi .yyyy=
. li&#39;u .i lo vy. mamta cu cusku lu toldi li&#39;u li&#39;u mupli loka x=
amgu<br>
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

Secondly, if you continue someone else&#39;s sentence, *you&#39;re being a<=
br>
dick*, just like in English.</blockquote><div><br>.i.ienai .i xu do pensi l=
odu&#39;u lo mi mupli pe lo mamta tolclite<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
If you really need to do so, just use<br>
{.i go&#39;i blah blah}.<br></blockquote><div><br>.i.ienaicu&#39;i .i mi la=
zni<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt =
0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
New speakers are speaking new utterances, because anything else is<br>
confusing and obnoxious. =A0Period.</blockquote><div><br>.i mi na tavla lon=
u cnino se cusku .i mi tavla lonu cnino jufra<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
 =A0And this discussion doesn&#39;t<br>
belong here.<br></blockquote><div><br>.<a href=3D"http://i.ie">i.ie</a> jet=
nu .ije mi pensi lodu&#39;u lo vi nuncasnu na cmima lo liste pe byfy. .i lo=
 vi nuncasnu cu cmima lo liste pe ma<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">


-Robin<br>
<br>
--<br>
<a href=3D"http://singinst.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://singinst.org/</a>=
 : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.<br>
Lojban (<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.loj=
ban.org/</a>): The language in which &quot;this parrot<br>
is dead&quot; is &quot;ti poi spitaki cu morsi&quot;, but &quot;this senten=
ce is false&quot;<br>
is &quot;na nei&quot;. =A0 My personal page: <a href=3D"http://www.digitalk=
ingdom.org/rlp/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/</a><b=
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