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On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> I suggest "mipyju'i": m2=j1 is hidden from and pays attention to m3=j2.
>

No offense to Stela - I like yours better.

> In Alice in Wonderland, there is this sentence (I think I wrote it, but I'd
> have to check the CVS log to be sure):
> Why, I haven't had a wink of sleep these three weeks!
> ze'e le jeftu be li ci mi sipna noda
> (ISTR a "ku" or something after "ci")
> Here "noda" is in the undefined x2 of "sipna" as if it were the wink place.
> If
> the usage in the Book is normative, it means "For the infinitely long three
> weeks, I haven't slept anywhere!".
>

I honestly think that it was a mistake on the author's part, and s/he
thought sipna did have a location x2. Also, might I suggest editing that to
{... ti'u noda}?


> There is a revision of the CLL in progress at http://dag.github.com/cll/.
>
> Pierre
> --
> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
> .icu'u la ma'atman.


-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do
zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Pierre =
Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma=
.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">
</div>I suggest &quot;mipyju&#39;i&quot;: m2=3Dj1 is hidden from and pays a=
ttention to m3=3Dj2.<br></blockquote><div><br>No offense to Stela - I like =
yours better.=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-lef=
t: 1ex;">
In Alice in Wonderland, there is this sentence (I think I wrote it, but I&#=
39;d<br>
have to check the CVS log to be sure):<br>
Why, I haven&#39;t had a wink of sleep these three weeks!<br>
ze&#39;e le jeftu be li ci mi sipna noda<br>
(ISTR a &quot;ku&quot; or something after &quot;ci&quot;)<br>
Here &quot;noda&quot; is in the undefined x2 of &quot;sipna&quot; as if it =
were the wink place. If<br>
the usage in the Book is normative, it means &quot;For the infinitely long =
three<br>
weeks, I haven&#39;t slept anywhere!&quot;.<br></blockquote><div><br>I hone=
stly think that it was a mistake on the author&#39;s part, and s/he thought=
 sipna did have a location x2. Also, might I suggest editing that to {... t=
i&#39;u noda}?<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

There is a revision of the CLL in progress at <a href=3D"http://dag.github.=
com/cll/" target=3D"_blank">http://dag.github.com/cll/</a>.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi&#39;afra tu&#39;a do<br>
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga<br>
.icu&#39;u la ma&#39;atman.</font></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.a&#39;o.e&#39;e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be =
denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I=
 am your father. :D )<br>
<br>

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