Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P74F0-0002ze-9E; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:44:01 -0700 Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4sf586226vws.16 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pzYDjlgLeqsVkgNMkD24zLUceX8ABcUXFUGHWddfSlQ=; b=ZYVYrgWerla2hWhXxf6tCyBsU9fgHHZEp7esu1O8IuYZxw8rZj3G/+zz0gCS7GKMuU 55RN6nPvddszwnHo3zDMPcknSCcmdjzjZFk2m4SsYsoWWtBkeUO8FT0bIrL/LvqWt3m7 mR2raJjP2Xc8WWKTGFwZrhCZcnQ03aTAGIs1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=qlVLH9MiEyYhsyqBFGEnciEY3rDKf11NM6cB2w2hJUk5Fz2CmUx7lhaoF+D+IGZPTe GK6RGCK6JZDnLHt5AiZuAZ6O+CvigD5addsuDka0J7eCBtcPzYBnr6zgAZ6cTBdOQkTo It0qhfGBzK9gs8xRHP8peR+P8f/BER7Wk/Jyc= Received: by 10.220.180.196 with SMTP id bv4mr27808vcb.11.1287225809989; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.183.198 with SMTP id ch6ls606783vcb.2.p; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.182.133 with SMTP id cc5mr310335vcb.9.1287225808244; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.182.133 with SMTP id cc5mr310334vcb.9.1287225808229; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com (mail-qy0-f177.google.com [209.85.216.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n18si2230114vbs.3.2010.10.16.03.43.27; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.177; Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so2047567qyk.8 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.233.10 with SMTP id jw10mr1722614qcb.110.1287225806066; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.67 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:43:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:43:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Getting in to the Lojban mindset From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1152 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM, mashers wrote: > So, does anyone have any suggestions for how I can begin to > reprogramme my brain? I'm aware that after 27 years of exposure to > English, my thought patterns are based on English and it will take > time to start understanding and formulating concepts in a different > way. I just have no idea how to begin to do this! Unfortunately I've no general suggestion that I could offer. The best that I can think of is to ask here in the list when there's something you don't get. Probably the process of trying to explain to you the meaning of a sentence will also give you some hint on what you should change in your mental model. Just start with one of the text on the lojban.org site and see how far you can go. Remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.