Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7E2M-0003iU-6E; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:34 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1196858wwe.16 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5FOZvravMl0SP+tO7ypqyy6Zf8L9S3VL/PTeZISwkHo=; b=NPsy4dXQBMtUsvk2uC6WMGp/8EM7lnLOFeHHRYCGPyKcyFx8abZS/74zqPowdzCuIR d7wag5CCeQvWqSb/yslgqQUzy2fizzp+xfTPzkASYZO+lBsM8sYGcpejuV1Ohv3hqt7A Se7IsnRY5yGsemr/H11LSQSEjgX2kUh8MULFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=imcSpi3Jb2w3O9ej8BTtFM+jOcnvMmQtKvTApIWAR3EzTqs9LlfnVIPGb7rFg+stho W6Ip+5Qsg5X3wrcm9cQcAEqpxSrgGLtIp2HcF7XpknHLD7XdcyU6fQ4rZ3zydfcCK5Bs nzZKRZryyzPqz1s8rCIJbQaP2Hv0GzH217x7I= Received: by 10.216.187.5 with SMTP id x5mr76660wem.25.1287263466519; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.29.18 with SMTP id o18ls2179955bkc.3.p; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.126.154 with SMTP id c26mr202914bks.23.1287263465518; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.126.154 with SMTP id c26mr202913bks.23.1287263465498; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w9si3083519bkz.0.2010.10.16.14.11.04; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.41; Received: by mail-fx0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 2so1312254fxm.28 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.196 with SMTP id f4mr190562hbc.49.1287263464295; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.162.66 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22eb0fb3-a7df-4139-963e-25d939dcabda@l14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> References: <22eb0fb3-a7df-4139-963e-25d939dcabda@l14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:11:04 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Abstraction terminators: kei and ku From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 958 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Zifre wrote: > > lonu mrobi'o kei xlali ... > but what is the > logic behind this (putting events into a tanru)? What would the > original example mean ("a dying type-of bad thing")? Right, "a deathly bad thing". I guess if you use "mrori'a" instead you would get "a deadly bad thing". >Has this type of > construct ever been used in real Lojban? I don't recall seeing "nu ... kei" used as a seltau, but I have used NUs as main selbri. For example, you could say: lo nu viska cu nu krici "Seeing is believing." mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.