Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7HCr-0007bj-2m; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:35 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1292732wwe.16 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=H2H1ZI40hZU6DhbE72w3n6mkSqqA0a5+R/daAet3ZDM=; b=Owo2VnER3hxBlT86DEDfNVwj6ue9upt6lREcl1RwuWnQklIvNx7QgZ5uWWtmRglhIg lYUa9m6yZkYkTUTtpUEJlc1jdAxfdBQuB2F5WCggiqsiPd4+EISXQRrfiw6Q69Wm0h4f WYaoUJpNaUKGey4nJP2Efqbz1wbWwtmFQgUJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=b43zmsvto6/5695ToNpWC72ICFIUJJ9EG2X0g52liRnx4ZgDClCni0Hehu+wF73YWC H9C1CahFb1WrJVmjdVPxA1y1FLJvCSNIQoHzJY2OxoAiC+2zZvBIS2RSwyv9SVRCWAVO k5F6pj9fMvb5OhJA6KWs5P3D5emGgFs7OzNkM= Received: by 10.216.12.7 with SMTP id 7mr358302wey.26.1287275649136; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.198.213 with SMTP id ep21ls643158wbb.2.p; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.8 with SMTP id p8mr129846wbt.28.1287275648021; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.8 with SMTP id p8mr129845wbt.28.1287275647976; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r4si4477317wec.6.2010.10.16.17.34.06; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.181; Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so2030148wyf.26 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.235.106 with SMTP id t84mr2766177weq.46.1287275646769; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:34:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.63.17 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:33:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22eb0fb3-a7df-4139-963e-25d939dcabda@l14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> References: <22eb0fb3-a7df-4139-963e-25d939dcabda@l14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:33:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Abstraction terminators: kei and ku To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=selckiku@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1100 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Zifre wrote: > > Has this type of construct ever been used in real Lojban? This surprised me at first, too, but now that I'm used to it I use it all the time. I can't think of how I've actually used it, but I'll invent some random examples: .i mi nu klama lo panka kei djica .i ta nu salci kei cidja .i mi nu pilno zo nu lo seltau kei nelci .i nu cfipu so'a nintadni kei gerna .i dei nu do cilre fi lo seltau poi vasru zo nu kei mupli .i nu so'i xlali cu fasnu kei vlile mu'i lo nu pilno zo nu kei nu cfipu .i lo jbopre cu pilno lo nu cfipu lo nintadni kei gerna lo kusru nu cusku .i xu lo nu mi nu ctuca kei ke pluja pilno zo nu cu nu cilre kei xamgu do mi'e .telselkik. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.