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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lo preti be lo fu'ivla
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On Wednesday 20 October 2010 11:43:09 Geoffrey Stewart wrote:
> coi rodo
>
> .i fi mi preti fe lo fu'ivla .i ma vlaturge'a fi fu'ivla pe kulnu .i mi
> zgana lo ci klesi .i pamai loi gismu noi lu'e glico cu vlaturge'a .i remai
> lo'e fu'ivla noi lu'e kulnrblgaria cu vlaturge'a .i cimai loi rafsi fu'ivla
> noi lu'e tci'ile vlaturge'a .i ma drani
>
> To repeat in case I'm completely incomprehensible in lojban:
> I would like to ask a question about fu'ivla. What is the structure of
> cultural fu'ivla? I have seen three types: firstly gismu, such as glico;
> secondly typical fu'ivla, such as kulnrblgaria; thirdly rafsi fu'ivla, such
> as tci'ile. Which are correct?

lo gismu na fu'ivla. CCVVCV is proposed in the Book as a form for cultural 
fu'ivla, but we've made up cultural fu'ivla in other forms too, such 
as "katlana" (Catalan) and "nienke'a" (Mohawk). (I say "we", but both of 
those are by me. I'd have to check jbovlaste to see what anyone else has made 
up.) Another one in CCVVCV form is "mraigo" (Welsh).

The place structure of a type-4 cultural fu'ivla is like that of "glico" 
or "fraso". The place structure of a type-3 is like that of the gismu it's 
made from, so if you want one with the same place structure as "bolgaro", 
it's "slovnblgaria", not "kulnrblgaria".

"fi lo fu'ivla pe lo kulnu"; "zo glico".

Pierre
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