Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8snF-0005fv-Q1; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:54:51 -0700 Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39sf3164881wyb.16 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:54:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IEboz5npBQbnNVuGIzkxuMiH8qnNKkISgywhn5npmxA=; b=VeyDKUWBX6yAPCr2ThTz6NQHPy0Bj2XrnB5zwJd8Iu6I5/et2Iuifc/IYu09b5t8pR MQburYnYNSJC+pSQJMM7GA1DgL8suINrBTktelso5SjSmZhYy3uQ9LxXcP6bhrBP8qQn 7WJS0toeIpWKIS3v3feMHDpAusoj+6yFHogbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=3bk7umWVe1y5UCrvXaiBFfu3gA610mwHQo+1XtG8IrHzH8Kc5kAg9OZGGFuzTscdAF 1VxJ/wbrrbp8n0h+PJSKzWaCykjyEMECkCtHS912xgXpXFWU1tJz/6mJcc5qLLUrkfHh DEbmLfKO25toLoMjTNV60GN6ilqJ/MlqPyKMw= Received: by 10.216.237.34 with SMTP id x34mr87232weq.10.1287658464117; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:54:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.58.143 with SMTP id q15ls1055240wec.1.p; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.150.167 with SMTP id z39mr517047wej.10.1287658462556; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.169.18 with SMTP id w18mr11906muo.16.1287641284627; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.169.18 with SMTP id w18mr11905muo.16.1287641284594; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f42.google.com (mail-bw0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l25si287149fam.0.2010.10.20.23.08.04; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.42; Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so9397bwz.1 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:08:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.55.135 with SMTP id u7mr291327bkg.122.1287641284121; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.98.194 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:08:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <80BFFF28-45C0-4B2B-B4EC-CAFB84DE3F87@albanocruz.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:08:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban for beginners From: Matthew Walton To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=matthew@matthew-walton.co.uk Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2319 On 20 October 2010 18:55, Luke Bergen wrote: > I usually pronounce Robert as rab,rt as the CLL suggests. =A0Maybe someon= e > from the UK can give input on the=A0pronunciation=A0there. Over here you hear robyt and robyrt, depending on accent. I wouldn't be at all surprised if other Brits could come up with other variants as well. > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Albano Cruz <3dtreboles@gmail.com> wrote= : >> >> Hi to all... >> >> I've started the translation into Spanish of "Lojban for beginners", and= I >> just encountered my first doubt. The following paragraph contains yhe >> lojbanization of the nam Robert: >> >> - - - >> The final point is stress. As we've seen, Lojban words are stressed on t= he >> penultimate syllable, and if a name has different stress, we use capital >> letters. This means that the English and French names Robert come out >> differently in Lojban: the English name is robyt. in UK English, or rab,= rt. >> in some American dialects, but the French is roBER. . >> - - - >> >> Robert in English becomes "robyt", apparently. But... shouldn't it be >> "robyrt" ? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> .albanos. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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