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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Geoffrey Stewart
<geoffstewart56@gmail.com> wrote:
> coi rodo
>
> .i fi mi preti fe lo fu'ivla .i ma vlaturge'a fi fu'ivla pe kulnu=A0.i mi
> zgana lo ci klesi .i pamai loi gismu noi lu'e glico cu vlaturge'a .i rema=
i
> lo'e fu'ivla noi lu'e=A0kulnrblgaria cu vlaturge'a .i cimai loi rafsi fu'=
ivla
> noi lu'e tci'ile vlaturge'a .i ma drani
>
> To=A0repeat in case I'm completely incomprehensible in lojban:
> I would like to ask a question about fu'ivla. What is the structure of
> cultural fu'ivla?=A0I have seen three types: firstly gismu, such as glico=
;
> secondly typical fu'ivla, such as kulnrblgaria; thirdly rafsi fu'ivla, su=
ch
> as tci'ile. Which are correct?
>
> .i pe'u ko draga'i loi mi jufra
>

  Your first sentence, while grammatically fine, can be simplified as
"mi te preti lo fu'ivla".  Using se/te/ve/xe to change the order of
arguments of a brivla can be a useful tool.  Your second sentence is
not grammatical, since "fi" must be followed by a sumti, as does pe,
so "ma vlaturge'a fi lo fu'ivla pe lo kulnu".  Your third sentence is
fine.  I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do with "pamai loi
gismu noi lu'e glico cu vlaturge'a", but it's not grammatical (lu'e
has to be followed by a sumti, but even with an added lo before glico,
it's not what you are trying to say).  Try this-- ".i pamai go'i loi
gismu be mu'u zo glico" (firstly, [I observe] gismu, such as 'glico').
 Simliarly with the next two sentences.  Your last sentence is fine.

           --gejyspa

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