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And now to see if I understand:

ca - present; when used like this, it means that the bridi is occurring at
the same time as the sumti to the right of ca
lo - convert a selbri to a sumti
nu - event abstractor - nu .. kei is the event
ca'o - continuative; the selbri had already started and hadn't yet finished
la meris - Mary
katna - x1 cuts x2 ... ; can be used to mean chop
lo mudri - wood [of some tree species]

the entire {ca lo nu ... kei} becomes a time tag
la djan - John
co'a - marks krixa as starting
krixa - x1 screams/emits sound x2

did I get most of that?

also, it seems like it would be invalid to use krixa to scream information.
{mi krixa zoi .gy. Get out of bed! .gy.} is clearly wrong, but what about
{mi krixa se du'u zoi .gy. Get out of bed! .gy.}?  Also wrong, right?

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Friday 22 October 2010 19:06:42 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
> > > My professor asked me how one would say "While Mary was chopping wood=
,
> > > John began to scream."
> >
> >  ca lo nu la meris ca'o katna lo mudri kei la djan co'a krixa
>
> x1 of "katna" is the tool. I'd say:
>
> ca lo nu la meris ca'o katnygau fi lo mudri kei la djan co'a krixa
>
> or "mruka'agau" instead of "katnygau" to specify that she was chopping, n=
ot
> sawing. (lo ka'amru is an axe.)
>
> Pierre
> --
> La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.
> Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.
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And now to see if I understand:<br><br>ca - present; when used like this, i=
t means that the bridi is occurring at the same time as the sumti to the ri=
ght of ca<br>lo - convert a selbri to a sumti<br>nu - event abstractor - nu=
 .. kei is the event<br>
ca&#39;o - continuative; the selbri had already started and hadn&#39;t yet =
finished<br>la meris - Mary<br>katna - x1 cuts x2 ... ; can be used to mean=
 chop<br>lo mudri - wood [of some tree species]<br><br>the entire {ca lo nu=
 ... kei} becomes a time tag<br>
la djan - John<br>co&#39;a - marks krixa as starting<br>krixa - x1 screams/=
emits sound x2<br><br>did I get most of that?<br><br>also, it seems like it=
 would be invalid to use krixa to scream information.=A0 {mi krixa zoi .gy.=
 Get out of bed! .gy.} is clearly wrong, but what about {mi krixa se du&#39=
;u zoi .gy. Get out of bed! .gy.}?=A0 Also wrong, right?<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Pierre Abba=
t <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.opt=
us.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Friday 22 October 2010 19:06:42 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote=
:<br>
&gt; On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:rpglover64@gmail.com">rpglover64@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; My professor asked me how one would say &quot;While Mary was chop=
ping wood,<br>
&gt; &gt; John began to scream.&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0ca lo nu la meris ca&#39;o katna lo mudri kei la djan co&#39;a krix=
a<br>
<br>
</div>x1 of &quot;katna&quot; is the tool. I&#39;d say:<br>
<br>
ca lo nu la meris ca&#39;o katnygau fi lo mudri kei la djan co&#39;a krixa<=
br>
<br>
or &quot;mruka&#39;agau&quot; instead of &quot;katnygau&quot; to specify th=
at she was chopping, not<br>
sawing. (lo ka&#39;amru is an axe.)<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.<br>
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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