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On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
> And now to see if I understand:

It seems to me like you did!

> katna - x1 cuts x2 ... ; can be used to mean chop

I think Pierre was right about this, the x1 of katna is a tool that
chops, so it's not Mary that's cutting the wood... unless your axe is
named Mary!  That would be a good name for an axe.

> also, it seems like it would be invalid to use krixa
> to scream information.=A0{mi krixa zoi .gy. Get out
> of bed! .gy.} is clearly wrong, but what about
> {mi krixa se du'u zoi .gy. Get out of bed! .gy.}?
> Also wrong, right?

What we usually use for this is "kixsku" (also sometimes spelled
"ki'asku") which is from krixa + cusku (to say) and means x1 cries out
expression x2 to audience x3 through medium x4.

With "du'u" the first place is a predication, a meaning, and the
second place is a sentence that expresses that meaning.  Neither of
those fit directly with the second place of "krixa", which is a sound.

mi'e .telselkik. mu'o

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