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{.i mi kakne lo bajra}, if you translate it almost literally, means "I
am capable of a runner." Even if {kakne} didn't require an abstraction
specifically, I still think kakne2 wants a bridi for an answer.
Otherwise, that's why we have {tu'a}.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can someone clarify why:
>> sentence A:
>> { mi kakne lo bajra }
>> is not as good as
>> sentence B:
>> { mi kakne lo nu bajra }
>>
>> Assuming the rationale is that "nu" is necessary to mark an event/state,=
 it
>> seems to me that since (event/state) is inherent in the x2 argument of
>> kakne, that adding the 'nu' would be superfluous.
>> Assuming the argument is that it becomes nonsensical to say sentence A, =
i.e.
>> "You can't say I can runner," I would think that argument is based on
>> English concepts of proper grammar, and that there should be no a priori
>> reason something like "I can runner" is "nonsensical."
>> Or is there some other veciski?
>>
>
> =A0Since the x2 of kakne is an event, the first sentence says you are
> capable of some "running event". =A0That is, some event that runs
> (whatever that maybe intended to mean), not an event OF running. =A0For
> a less confusing contrast:
> a)mi kakne lo drata
>
> b)mi kakne lo nu drata
>
> =A0The first says "I am capable of other things". =A0The second second
> says "I am capable of being different"
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa
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