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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] coi rodo .i preti lo pamoi sumti i.
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On Thursday 28 October 2010 06:05:33 ranoritc wrote:
> mi puza co'a mipyju'i gi'e pamoi mrilu .i preti .i
> lenu na'e cusku lo pamoi sumti pe lo brivla kei frica lenu na'e cusku
> lo da'a sumti kei le ka smuni xu .i
> mi ca jimpe fi di'u fe lo du'u ge lenu na'e cusku lo pamoi sumti kei
> se smuni lo du'u le no steci sumti cu sitna kei gi.ku'i  lenu na'e
> cusku lo da'a sumti kei kakne se smuni lo du'u le smuvanbi sumti cu
> steci sumti .i
>
> mupli .i lu la sam cu pendo i. gerku i. li'u glico smuni zoi gy Sam is
> my friend. There is a dog. gy .i
>
> mi jai fenki xu .i .ao zoi gy Sam is my friend. He/She is a dog gy cu
> dramau smuni i.

re de'u cu drani .i mi finti zo srebandu ji'a noi lo pamoi sumti cu na'o claxu

> ji'ape'u ko dragau le mi lojbo ku ionai .i
>
> mu'o mi'e ranoritc
>
>
>
> I am a long time lurker, first time poster. A question:
> Is there a difference semantically between omitting the first sumti of
> a brivla or omitting others?
> The way I currently understand it, omitting the first sumti implies
> there is no specific sumti referred to but omitting others can be
> interpreted as refering to a context-implied sumti.
> An example. "la sam cu pendo .i gerku: means in English "Sam is my
> friend. There is a dog".
>
> Am I crazy? I do hope "Sam is my friend. He/She is a dog" is a more
> correct interpretation.

Both are right. I also made up the word "srebandu" (allergic), of which the 
first sumti (the allergic reaction) is normally omitted.

> Also, please correct my shitty Lojban!

I think the "gi.ku'i" should be "gi'eku'i", but don't have time to parse the 
whole thing - that's where jbofi'e bombed on it. "pamoi sumti be lo brivla" 
is better than "pamoi sumti pe lo brivla", though the latter is not 
incorrect.

Pierre
-- 
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