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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You can't want an
> apple, you can want to -eat- an apple.

Fortunately nobody pays any attention to the equally silly note in the
definition of "dunda" that you can't give an apple, you can only give
possession of an apple, or in "vecnu" that you can't sell an apple,
you can only sell the possession of an apple, or that you can't offer
("friti") an apple, and so on in several other gismu. People only seem
to fixate on poor "djica".

And eating it is not the only reason you may want an apple for. What
you want it for is what goes in the x3 of djica, the x2 of djica is
for what you want.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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