Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHEBX-0006EL-29; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:23 -0800 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf1508310pwi.16 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=WciOROXYlhfHRrbsMUtoRmEtsVl1vkwDiSxmkdDCZiw=; b=xWLne9kNohD2ktK5aXZbiiRXJvoon/HIkskwBv9xi+c1JYBl7VCMd3IAGUqBit6je9 mknuuRY8e/9++N+leygctNjdBsfcy9J2o3TJ726xYp97YukLPeD5Uczd1st69SAthdIB 2pXLmgcc/tVOncPsmC0M+Jp7CZNN4mb29JcyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=y7c9oT5xFGY0JlhPyNBLDAlLxjCxLwXbJq99qLdMFWkDfVtOXlWesU10azoiN2dSFX D5sn8wKfIf6KYfSThLb15geEFbNkXIvy10bOK3xN8dd6by/bsYHTNfs6Azxk1Un7IGaG tf3wmqnPb7qMfi9RpIIxOMirsvfLdVLOyj/No= Received: by 10.142.9.9 with SMTP id 9mr200606wfi.47.1289647321321; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls5471721wfb.0.p; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.99.21 with SMTP id w21mr2116542wfb.14.1289647320437; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.99.21 with SMTP id w21mr2116541wfb.14.1289647320415; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si7103060wfl.3.2010.11.13.03.21.59; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Inhw+Jdt7z1D3BivGPfn2aw54OvUEJw5lAn/booRZkE= c=1 sm=0 a=iA7j7VruE04A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=ItDAwwRpo0DS9M1jFd8A:9 a=8oOK3GtPD6gnXxRVs_SsbT8jv8sA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:36048] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BE/A6-13137-7D47EDC4; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:21:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22DC60EC for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 06:21:58 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about the beginning and future of Lojban Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:21:55 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <7dfb5cb7-f07e-4ecb-b7bb-c01a9be6931c@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7dfb5cb7-f07e-4ecb-b7bb-c01a9be6931c@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011130621.56986.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1291 On Friday 12 November 2010 22:35:53 ComputerPsi wrote: > Lojban is noted to have 1,300 root words or gismu. The rest of the > words, if not cmavo (structure words), are various combinations of > gismu to describe more advanced objects. There are also fu'ivla. A type-3 fu'ivla is a combination of a gismu and a foreign part; a type-4 fu'ivla is a bare foreign word (or an imitative word or an irregular combination such as "vonpaso"). > Here is an example of something that really gets to me: > The word for mouse: smacu. (gismu) > The word for rat: ratcu. (gismu) > The word for horse: xirma. (gismu) > The word for pony: cmaxi'a. (lujvo) What gets to me, in the animal gismu, is that the four gismu for kinds of birds all belong to the Galloanseri, and none belong to the largest order of birds, the Passeriformes. Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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