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On Saturday 13 November 2010 12:43:55 Lindar wrote:
> > As for abbreviations, I meant things like Americans shortening
> > "television" to "TV" or Francophones shortening "sympatique" to "sympa"=
,
> > and I was also thinking about acronyms a bit, e.g. MADD (mothers agains=
t
> > drunk driving).
> >
> > I'd assume that lojban would forbid both types.
>
> Quite the contrary. For example, we refer to the baupla fuzykamni as
> byfy. Also, fu'ivla don't necessarily have to be borrowed from a
> language. zi'evla are fu'ivla from our own language (lojban), or
> completely new words as the case may be. They aren't used a lot, but
> there exist fu'ivla/zi'evla of longer lujvo. For example, one might
> shorten {sorprekarce} (bus) to {sorpece} or some such thing.

I was thinking {sorpeka}, but same principle. {vonpaso}, which I mentioned=
=20
earlier, is another: it's from {vo pa so}, referring to Nigerian law 419, a=
nd=20
means the people who send mails that someone has died and has no heirs and=
=20
the bank wants to transfer some huge some of money abroad.

Note that acronyms like {byfy} function like pronouns, not like whatever=20
phrase they are abbreviations of. So I would say {mi cmima le baupla=20
fuzykamni}, but {mi cmima byfy}, not {mi cmima le byfy}. If you want to mak=
e=20
an acronym function like a proper noun, you precede it with {la me}, as in=
=20
{la me cy.ibumymy.ybuty}. But that one I'd more likely say as {la simit}.=
=20
(It's a Spanish acronym for Centro Internacional para el Mejoramiento de Ma=
=EDz=20
y Trigo =3D xagmaugau be lo zumri .e lo maxri be'o zukstu.}

Pierre
--=20
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