Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PJ67e-0003yZ-F1; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:10:06 -0800 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26sf261207pzk.16 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:09:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=wzqO7C/sf5v5xyx3ohHT1AMGAdizMFT1L/NpgnYjo20=; b=ubptRpMb30moLdmRTJsPU+7uYnMR8vUBdIJtwfFQtoKImKLAjkGtcJNcsxjVPpGAXx rZIu+Q4AHRe3OtPS/RBSq+z/qlW83Xtp4WbWtveCLxeTNISTOLK1ri1MVypa+LX6owK/ xQvhOcexW3oMuVhagSlpf5jtQivqRd32mHFR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=PVf9AJYJTIimzvKsKBlyh9OSn0AaCh1nAUEwOey0kIbj8BIkK6ihYRjaP4ymJWQs+I YmsU4BJAZ87adoZto2kv97mFv1J0l68ZpfLYNMgLZleTL1+8J49JqbflTVNk/F2jazx9 M5t0oZAdfjiHswV+FuRTMqPYUenX2HdKu8zvo= Received: by 10.142.208.5 with SMTP id f5mr22357wfg.4.1290092985206; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:09:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls2792782wfb.2.p; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.7 with SMTP id w7mr436983wff.15.1290092984392; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.7 with SMTP id w7mr436982wff.15.1290092984359; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si715242wfj.1.2010.11.18.07.09.43; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pepdxKapwHuwCZNFD5uob2wvham6E+RljB0uXw08FdQ= c=1 sm=0 a=iwsDT2a0TYAA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=V0Gu3vlyHIBsuimJAfsA:9 a=b3S8jwbCpWTe43E6CcM-IiQMw1gA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:57036] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 25/6C-19545-7B145EC4; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:09:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087D25845 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:09:42 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [fanva] "He was made much of at school." Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:09:40 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011181009.41320.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1024 On Thursday 18 November 2010 07:38:59 Oren wrote: > My tatoeba contribution for the day! Which are drani? Which is traji drani? > > (all that changes is word order) > > "He was made much of at school." > { ko'a pu na'o bu'u lo ckule cu se simna } > { ko'a pu na'o se simna bu'u lo ckule } > { ko'a bu'u lo ckule pu na'o se simna } Second or third. The first, I think, means "He was ??? in the place where a school typically was before there was a school there." "pu na'o bu'u" is a compound tense marker. I think you mean "sinma" (esteem) instead of "simna", which is undefined. Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.