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We keep coming back to this point and I can't decide which side of the fence
I lean towards.

I read tanru as X type-of Y.  So a {barda gerku} I read as a dog which is of
type "big" -> a big dog.

But there are some that seem funny.  For instance, if I am "the most
correct" am I fundamentally "superlative" or fundamentally "correct"? In
other words, am I "the most (type-of) correct" or am I "correct (type-of)
the most"?

The dog is fundamentally a dog, but he is also big.  "big" and "dogness" are
both attributes that he possesses.  How do we determine that his fundamental
essence is "dogness" and not "bigness" though?  If we could quantify that I
would be much happier being firmly planted on one side of the fence or the
other.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > My tatoeba contribution for the day! Which are drani? Which is traji
> drani?
>
> That's malgli. {traji drani} to me expands to {drani lo ka traji}
> You probably want {drani traji}.
>
> > "He was made much of at school."
>
> This doesn't make sense to me, a native English speaker, so I'm not
> sure how you would translate something that makes no sense, or why.
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We keep coming back to this point and I can&#39;t decide which side of the =
fence I lean towards.<div><br></div><div>I read tanru as X type-of Y. =A0So=
 a {barda gerku} I read as a dog which is of type &quot;big&quot; -&gt; a b=
ig dog.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But there are some that seem funny. =A0For instance, if=
 I am &quot;the most correct&quot; am I fundamentally &quot;superlative&quo=
t; or fundamentally &quot;correct&quot;? In other words, am I &quot;the mos=
t (type-of) correct&quot; or am I &quot;correct (type-of) the most&quot;?</=
div>
<div><br></div><div>The dog is fundamentally a dog, but he is also big. =A0=
&quot;big&quot; and &quot;dogness&quot; are both attributes that he possess=
es. =A0How do we determine that his fundamental essence is &quot;dogness&qu=
ot; and not &quot;bigness&quot; though? =A0If we could quantify that I woul=
d be much happier being firmly planted on one side of the fence or the othe=
r.</div>
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Lindar=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com">lindarthe=
bard@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">&gt; My tatoeba contribution for the day! Which are drani=
? Which is traji drani?<br>
<br>
</div>That&#39;s malgli. {traji drani} to me expands to {drani lo ka traji}=
<br>
You probably want {drani traji}.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; &quot;He was made much of at school.&quot;<br>
<br>
</div>This doesn&#39;t make sense to me, a native English speaker, so I&#39=
;m not<br>
sure how you would translate something that makes no sense, or why.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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