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see herein lies the confusion (for me anyway).  I could use a similar
argument about lo barda gerku.  {barda} has an x3 place for the "norm"
compared against which the object is big.  {gerku} has no place to denote
size, so maybe it should be {lo gerku barda}?  I'm reductio ad absurdam-ing
here so don't take this as a proposal that "the big dog" should be
translated "lo gerku barda".  I'm just trying to get my finger on the
precise way of deciding what the "principle" component of a tanru *should*
 be.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19 November 2010 17:17, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>   That may be the case in English but in lojban, we have the fact that
>> "traji" carries with it a property piece, wheras "drani" does not carry with
>> it a corresponding "degree" piece.  Therefore, it behooves us in lojban to
>> make "traji" the main bridi in that case.
>>                         --gejyspa
>>
>
> Well then that.
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see herein lies the confusion (for me anyway). =A0I could use a similar arg=
ument about lo barda gerku. =A0{barda} has an x3 place for the &quot;norm&q=
uot; compared against which the object is big. =A0{gerku} has no place to d=
enote size, so maybe it should be {lo gerku barda}? =A0I&#39;m reductio ad =
absurdam-ing here so don&#39;t take this as a proposal that &quot;the big d=
og&quot; should be translated &quot;lo gerku barda&quot;. =A0I&#39;m just t=
rying to get my finger on the precise way of deciding what the &quot;princi=
ple&quot; component of a tanru <i>should</i>=A0be.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ivo Doko <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ivo.doko@gmail.com">ivo.doko@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 19 November 2010 17:17, Mic=
hael Turniansky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=A0=20
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div>=A0 That may be the case in English but in lojban, we have the fac=
t that &quot;traji&quot; carries with it a property piece, wheras &quot;dra=
ni&quot; does not carry with it a corresponding &quot;degree&quot; piece.=
=A0 Therefore, it behooves us in lojban to make &quot;traji&quot; the main =
bridi in that case.</div>



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--gejyspa</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>Well then that.<div><div>=
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