Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMLV7-0004c2-He; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:45 -0800 Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17sf440043wwb.16 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=beXubQphq1K5LNp/zWvLydiA8hXerrkbm19U21Tf4W0=; b=jGfJseAx3WC4K+0Vl+ALaqfUkU3CVYgEvdZFX58LuPNFZ9m0XCtdsh1yvytjUAjJ+p s6fLs8JgLxruN6Fp5mZj4dP3sXcOheZb2cBEce70t6XFwKfJr06OUXMzglgn3aJLd2Uz Pdx95VcUynaL38/iYFgLw8btxy26LwB0Nhi7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ahBUxG+0sZMGB0nXs5+mBruRKaWjxqpgtEg1LLNc3TMnnTByeCkTSUrDCnJGCJt4ww gGNpZGqpp5va8JJ8/4J5AYZU8w+36JBt7seIxZt3m0DOkpoFni4uX8v2iKYco3qlt74Q sa3tQ6CtrfkWZjtbhqUY9Pkr1yXAT9tApXjIA= Received: by 10.216.140.24 with SMTP id d24mr978020wej.3.1290867083825; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.62.75 with SMTP id x53ls1708643wec.3.p; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.72.210 with SMTP id t60mr383674wed.3.1290867082175; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.72.210 with SMTP id t60mr383673wed.3.1290867082154; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f174.google.com (mail-wy0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m20si358422weq.3.2010.11.27.06.11.21; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.174; Received: by wyb28 with SMTP id 28so3098896wyb.5 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.134.142 with SMTP id j14mr3681209wbt.228.1290867079596; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:11:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201011271458.34422.jezuch@interia.pl> References: <11063a96-dae1-4ce7-9f82-e868fa656a2b@s9g2000vby.googlegroups.com> <969055.49852.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201011271458.34422.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:11:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Quick self check. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1078 2010/11/27 Krzysztof Sobolewski : > > How does it say "marznie"? (it's "mar,znie" in this case) Maybe that woul= d provide a clue? Ouch! That actually causes more problems. Now I see "marzni'e" won't work for Lojban "majni'e". So it's safer, although more cumbersome, to use "=BF" rather than "rz" for Lojban "j". Also it doesn't do too well with some V'V, as it diphthongizes them. So for Lojban "majni'e" I think the best we could do is: http://say.expressivo.com/jacek/ma=BFniie > BTW: What is the canonical way to pronunce "dj" in words like {djuno}? I = heard people say is like English "j" (or Polish "d=BF"), is that considered= correct? Yes, it's fine. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.