Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMYNu-0008Az-5g; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:57:10 -0800 Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10sf779820fxm.16 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=a18otx9K4oZ5fTI/vHgqT7gAOdFxDWQ5U8+Tu+f+PRA=; b=zLrxTk5IhT/y5ZB+NKnmkACHypqhIKUrLp25ouP8/oOYbK2vwbTFoBbzPZB7YmjJqa entLRtKcLNFGMm7NmxMxzFEe6KuZiC7TeaBJX0s+74AUBMeZCChPnw+5GpjA9frKKjyc cCCmzAqL8Jyaaoh/xT2veejXUe4KvrByKqcPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=nc2ULF/3EdVBw0Oghn0K2li8IMgeG4GM2/xAZYASsolJUS+JEk/Wn1gQEplUx6LESr 7fGNabNr2T8bssnmzNrtVMpKE/jec0SkI2N62W4lZR8T/EE/Ik+nfJWJIteg3Lqz9nKu eMeOq2Tw1HvvbrzdyZV/iBm0MEzE6GUS2o1zg= Received: by 10.223.107.195 with SMTP id c3mr149583fap.4.1290916608316; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.32.79 with SMTP id b15ls2011212bkd.0.p; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.32.13 with SMTP id a13mr373879bkd.11.1290916607180; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.32.13 with SMTP id a13mr373878bkd.11.1290916606998; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f45.google.com (mail-fx0-f45.google.com [209.85.161.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w14si447949bkt.4.2010.11.27.19.56.45; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.45; Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2576016fxm.4 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.118.136 with SMTP id v8mr3738277faq.90.1290916605799; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.207 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:56:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Oren Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 22:56:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: [fanva] "Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius, doesn't it?" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1299 This one might be open to more varied interpretations :) Which is better-ish? "Forget it. It's not worth it." { ko na pensi .i lo prali cu na banzu } { vi'onai .u'anai } { .e'unai .u'anai } ...? On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 22:42, Oren wrote: > Submitting this to tatoeba, please correct as necessary! > > "Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius, doesn't it?" > { lo djacu ku dunja lo jacke'o be li no .i xu na go'i } > > Could I get away with either of these endings? > { lo djacu ku dunja lo jacke'o be li no .i xu na } > { lo djacu ku dunja lo jacke'o be li no .i xu } > > In general, what other ways are there to 'lojbanically' say: > > "bla bla bla bla, right?" > > ...but as a "leading question?" As opposed to just asking for yes/no > confirmation, that is, *expecting* and *encouraging* the listener to > agree? > > co'o mi'e korbi > -- Oren Robinson (315) 569-2888 102 Morrison Ave Somerville, MA 02144 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.