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On Thursday 04 November 2010 18:59:29 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote:
> 2010/11/4 Krzysztof Sobolewski <jezuch@interia.pl>:
> > Or, in other words, what actually "by standard" means? ;)
>
> Nobody really knows. :)
>
> I think most "by standard" places should be scrapped, but the one in
> "dukse" is one of the few I use constantly. I'd probably word the
> definition differently though, not using "by standard".

Here are a few:

clani3: John is tall for a Watusi. la djan. clani fi tu'a lo prenrtutsi
mitre: the standard place can be filled with "lo nu dadysli lo .ertsi be li=
=20
pimu" (proposed but rejected, and gives a meter a few millimeters=20
shorter), "lo nu jbini lo re barna be le jinme grana", "lo nu lo mipnavni=
=20
boxna cu mitre li fi'utu'o", or "lo nu lo gusni nilsutra cu trefrinysnidu l=
i=20
299792458".
drani4: It's right by Trobriander standards. drani fo lo trobriando
glare2: le kumfa cu glare tu'a lo bisycinki

mu'omi'e pier.
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Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

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