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From the wiki page on xorlo:
[...] "lo" is now *completely* generic. This means that there are going to
be disagreements about how broad it can be. For example, I think that "bear
goo" is perfectly validly "lo cribe".

lo with no outer or inner quantifier is absolutely generic; "lo broda" means
"something(s) or other to do with broda", and that's about it.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Thursday 02 December 2010 10:10:26 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> > I was under the impression that, pre-xorlo, {lo ctufau} must be a _real_
> > lesson, but post-xorlo it's something to do with a lesson, determined
> from
> > context.
>
> lo ctufau is still a lesson. The difference is that it is no longer
> required
> that there exist a particular lesson which is the standard for tomorrow.
>
> The standard example is "mi nitcu lo mikce". Pre-xorlo, this meant that
> there
> is at least one doctor such that I need him. In xorlo, I can still say "mi
> nitcu lo mikce" if any of several doctors will do but I don't need all of
> them at once.
>
> Pierre
> --
> li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci
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From the wiki page on xorlo:<br><div style=3D"margin-left: 40px;">[...] &qu=
ot;lo&quot; is now <strong>completely</strong> generic.  This means that th=
ere=20
are going to be disagreements about how broad it can be.  For example, I
 think that &quot;bear goo&quot; is perfectly validly &quot;lo cribe&quot;.=
<br><br></div><div style=3D"margin-left: 40px;">lo with no outer or inner q=
uantifier is absolutely generic; &quot;lo broda&quot;=20
means &quot;something(s) or other to do with broda&quot;, and that&#39;s ab=
out it.<br></div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at =
11:42 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.op=
tus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Thursday 02 December 2010 10:10:26 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:<br>
&gt; I was under the impression that, pre-xorlo, {lo ctufau} must be a _rea=
l_<br>
&gt; lesson, but post-xorlo it&#39;s something to do with a lesson, determi=
ned from<br>
&gt; context.<br>
<br>
</div>lo ctufau is still a lesson. The difference is that it is no longer r=
equired<br>
that there exist a particular lesson which is the standard for tomorrow.<br=
>
<br>
The standard example is &quot;mi nitcu lo mikce&quot;. Pre-xorlo, this mean=
t that there<br>
is at least one doctor such that I need him. In xorlo, I can still say &quo=
t;mi<br>
nitcu lo mikce&quot; if any of several doctors will do but I don&#39;t need=
 all of<br>
them at once.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
--<br>
li ze te&#39;a ci vu&#39;u ci bi&#39;e te&#39;a mu du<br>
li ci su&#39;i ze te&#39;a mu bi&#39;e vu&#39;u ci<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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