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On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
> From the wiki page on xorlo:

That page is not too reliable.

> [...] "lo" is now completely generic. This means that there are going to be
> disagreements about how broad it can be. For example, I think that "bear
> goo" is perfectly validly "lo cribe".

That's really about "cribe", not about "lo". If you can point to it
and say "ta cribe", then there is no problem in referring to it as "lo
cribe". If pointing to it and saying "ta cribe" would raise eyebrows,
then so would "lo cribe". It has nothing to do with "lo".

> lo with no outer or inner quantifier is absolutely generic; "lo broda" means
> "something(s) or other to do with broda", and that's about it.

lo broda = zo'e noi broda

If you can't put it in the x1 of broda, don't refer to it as "lo broda".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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