Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PQ4yO-0002S3-Fr; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:21:25 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf101282pvh.16 for ; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:21:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WAxuoGiZ6zGgOa8uZOq7qnGw9ERRub3P9j01SmkBAF8=; b=BH5J3uOw/lo4sOqQDCu5OgoR38oiIvx2SkwXmjOcywsRvJUpaSWFFhgQUqz2D1i2KO GmNV5CL7AVi40hpVy8rVjCTfJ8LXb6LaTph0QXZZY9O+HnZ7FN/bQWneimCxxurKsGiM 2mNeB7j89gPxyU6ta9eedjnMOg8Ii23ruzw6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DQMDNAeE4Zk5NbuKLuaE8LXkdqG+yzw0e4MfSvzl0vDXpcJyzPHPj5IJeV/5VpHXsB ExmvobxZqMtwnOSVO9Uz6ID6v1dHgZwL65xvoIJclhwP5AxXnOfi0BnfXVC9dtKMjzmF 0iyqOuaJiLOn6nqMelUwJVoBznwDUu1SgpR+Y= Received: by 10.142.150.13 with SMTP id x13mr405235wfd.41.1291756862031; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:21:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls211463wfb.0.p; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:21:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.26.32 with SMTP id d32mr409468wfj.51.1291756861017; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:21:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 13:21:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0e6ab244-b53a-4f0f-9445-6afae8d995e8@n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com> X-IP: 122.108.118.32 References: <201012021419.06015.phma@phma.optus.nu> <0e6ab244-b53a-4f0f-9445-6afae8d995e8@n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/8.0.552.215 Safari/534.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Day standard From: ranoritc To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: ranorith@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 3810 *malglico - wish I could pretend it was a typo, but I did it twice :S On Dec 7, 11:44=A0pm, ranoritc wrote: > While I am new to Lojban, I fear there may be some maglico going on > here. While you might feel comfortable pointing to ground chicken or > chicken eggs and saying "It is chicken," I doubt you would feel as > comfortable saying "It is a chicken." > In the first, you are using "chicken" descriptively, more like an > adjective - and I feel the Lojbanic translations would be "ta jipca > broda" and "ta jipca" respectively. When you say "lo gerku cu batci > mi" you mean "some dog(s) bit me" not "some dog-like thing(s) bit > me." > I am new and may stand corrected, but this is my understanding of > "lo". > > Ranorith > > ta'a .i > la lojban cnino mi .i ku'ie'u .iicu'i de'u maglico .i lonu degja'o lo > jipca selkatna .a jipca spisa gi'e cusku zoi gy It is chicken gy cu se > panpi do da'i .iku'i .iacu'i lonu cusku zoi gy It is a chicken gy cu > se panpi do .i > lonu cusku ru cu pilno zoi gy chicken gy lonu skivla i. pe'i fanva ru > la lojban fu lu ta jipca broda li'u .iji'a pe'i ra la lojban fu lu ta > jipca li'u .i lonu cusku lu lo gerku cu batci mi li'u cu se smuni zoi > gy some dog(s) bit me gy .enai zoi gy some dog-like thing(s) bit me > gy .i > ke'u la lojban cnino mi .iji'aju'o =A0la'e dei jitfa .iku'i mi jimpe fi > zo lo .i > > mu'omi'e ranoritc > > On Dec 3, 6:27=A0am, Luke Bergen wrote: > > > > > > > > > ok, that makes more sense. =A0If someone pointed to a pool of bear bloo= d and > > say {xu ta cribe} I would probably be inclined to reply {na go'i .i ta > > ciblu}. =A0I was thinking of "goo" in that context. =A0I think I'd be c= onfused > > though if somebody at a picnic asked me if I wanted {lo bakni} instead = of > > {lo cidrxamberge}. =A0I think once a thing has been transformed enough = that it > > would be better described by a different word... it might make more sen= se to > > call it by the other word. =A0i.e. it's not {lo djacu} it's {lo tanbarg= u} :) > > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote= : > > > On Thursday 02 December 2010 13:54:01 Luke Bergen wrote: > > > > that makes me feel much more comfortable about "lo". =A0Maybe I'm > > > > misunderstanding "bear goo" but if I saw someone point at "bear goo= " > > > > (whatever that might be) and say {ta cribe} I would certainly have = an > > > > eyebrow raising experience. =A0What exactly was that supposed to me= an > > > anyway? > > > > =A0I read it similar to "bear blood" or something of the sort. > > > > I think it means ground-up or mashed bear flesh. I've never seen grou= nd > > > bear, > > > but I have seen ground chicken, and if I saw ground chicken or chicke= n > > > eggs, > > > it would make sense to ask "ta jipci ma?", even though it's not a who= le > > > chicken. > > > > Pierre > > > -- > > > lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups > > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.co= m. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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