Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSCFT-0002Tq-Px; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:31:51 -0800 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf5015309wwb.16 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:31:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N4g57Y4z8eOzFokhpZkwFrRCogRrgLgVMp/j2NmpcQc=; b=UJzcEe89vQFRA7i7hX+3qF3YYUrRF+FfJPLUVvhPuxdWvkIcWzR1sWv8bvQf345SEI CF6xC5409S397HgxHXhqm3Ijt5dF5Ubk8cwc3C5X1NryWBVhRZyc5lsvEBESWYvvvPMW qwOSkdCwSqNQi4DewMD7CbQ8UtF/QYxwqFFmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=xTAkJWJYdHIOkPffzBAjnX0+wfIPiietjVompJyPP4jH+/ddYLSuT4ddtbCc7A71eq 3t6Q4jwXxQdjZXkhr+5P9vB9nLgWzAEfN5G36DeOXoIHUrbKSaehZYKMT80HgbIim5ni wI7GXZtcN4Bn3uqzA3GsDWJ+ZAZ+WS8N4dxFM= Received: by 10.216.51.13 with SMTP id a13mr325890wec.19.1292261485760; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.10.75 with SMTP id 51ls449873eeu.6.p; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.127.67 with SMTP id c43mr41962eei.11.1292261383482; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.127.67 with SMTP id c43mr41961eei.11.1292261383453; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ew0-f51.google.com (mail-ew0-f51.google.com [209.85.215.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r17si100251eeh.7.2010.12.13.09.29.42; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.51; Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so4062868ewy.24 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.33.193 with SMTP id i1mr2746376ebd.60.1292260868973; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.5.5 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:21:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] .i preti lo preti From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c43ea0d64a704974deea5 Content-Length: 3110 --0015174c43ea0d64a704974deea5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Firstly, is the subject valid? I have a question about questions. Secondly, would {.i di'e preti lo preti} also worked? Thirdly, could {preti preti} be used as a tanru to mean {preti be lo preti}, and would that be "x1 is a question about questions by questioner x3 to audience x4"? Fourthly, the actual question: In English, the following exchange occurs with some regularity: "What's up?" "Nothing." The "nothing" in this context is kinda like {zo'e}, right? It is a response to the question that gives no additional information. {.i do mo} {co'e} might be an equivalent exchange, right? But what if the question is {do djica ma}? A response that confers no information would be {zo'e}. What about (an admittedly contrived) {do djica ma ma}? You'd need to respond {zo'e zo'e}, right? So is there a single response that covers all those possibilities? {su}? I don't quite like that. -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0015174c43ea0d64a704974deea5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Firstly, is the subject valid?=A0 I have a question about questions.
Sec= ondly, would {.i di'e preti lo preti} also worked?
Thirdly, could {p= reti preti} be used as a tanru to mean {preti be lo preti}, and would that = be "x1 is a question about questions by questioner x3 to audience x4&q= uot;?

Fourthly, the actual question:

In English, the following exchang= e occurs with some regularity:

"What's up?"
"N= othing."

The "nothing" in this context is kinda like = {zo'e}, right?=A0 It is a response to the question that gives no additi= onal information.

{.i do mo}
{co'e}

might be an equivalent exchange, right?=

But what if the question is {do djica ma}?
A response that confe= rs no information would be {zo'e}.

What about (an admittedly con= trived) {do djica ma ma}?
You'd need to respond {zo'e zo'e}, right?

So is there a = single response that covers all those possibilities?
{su}?=A0 I don'= t quite like that.

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