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I think your use of preti is ok.

I don't think {preti preti} would be quite what you make it.  I guess I
would interpret it as something like "a question type of question".  But it
only gets an actual place structure like that if it's made into an official
lujvo

With regard to "what's up" question... I don't think zo'e would be a fair
interpretation of "nothing" like that.  {zo'e} means "the obvious".  So, "mi
klama zo'e" doesn't mean that I go nowhere.  It means that I go somewhere
(that somewhere being obvious from context or not important).

I would respond to {do djica ma} with {zi'o} if I didn't want anything.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>wrote:

> Firstly, is the subject valid?  I have a question about questions.
> Secondly, would {.i di'e preti lo preti} also worked?
> Thirdly, could {preti preti} be used as a tanru to mean {preti be lo
> preti}, and would that be "x1 is a question about questions by questioner x3
> to audience x4"?
>
> Fourthly, the actual question:
>
> In English, the following exchange occurs with some regularity:
>
> "What's up?"
> "Nothing."
>
> The "nothing" in this context is kinda like {zo'e}, right?  It is a
> response to the question that gives no additional information.
>
> {.i do mo}
> {co'e}
>
> might be an equivalent exchange, right?
>
> But what if the question is {do djica ma}?
> A response that confers no information would be {zo'e}.
>
> What about (an admittedly contrived) {do djica ma ma}?
> You'd need to respond {zo'e zo'e}, right?
>
> So is there a single response that covers all those possibilities?
> {su}?  I don't quite like that.
>
> --
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I think your use of preti is ok.<div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t think {pret=
i preti} would be quite what you make it. =A0I guess I would interpret it a=
s something like &quot;a question type of question&quot;. =A0But it only ge=
ts an actual place structure like that if it&#39;s made into an official lu=
jvo</div>
<div><br></div><div>With regard to &quot;what&#39;s up&quot; question... I =
don&#39;t think zo&#39;e would be a fair interpretation of &quot;nothing&qu=
ot; like that. =A0{zo&#39;e} means &quot;the obvious&quot;. =A0So, &quot;mi=
 klama zo&#39;e&quot; doesn&#39;t mean that I go nowhere. =A0It means that =
I go somewhere (that somewhere being obvious from context or not important)=
.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I would respond to {do djica ma} with {zi&#39;o} if I d=
idn&#39;t want anything.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, D=
ec 13, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:rpglover64@gmail.com">rpglover64@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Firstly, is the subject valid?=A0 I have a =
question about questions.<br>Secondly, would {.i di&#39;e preti lo preti} a=
lso worked?<br>
Thirdly, could {preti preti} be used as a tanru to mean {preti be lo preti}=
, and would that be &quot;x1 is a question about questions by questioner x3=
 to audience x4&quot;?<br>
<br>Fourthly, the actual question:<br><br>In English, the following exchang=
e occurs with some regularity:<br><br>&quot;What&#39;s up?&quot;<br>&quot;N=
othing.&quot;<br><br>The &quot;nothing&quot; in this context is kinda like =
{zo&#39;e}, right?=A0 It is a response to the question that gives no additi=
onal information.<br>

<br>{.i do mo}<br>{co&#39;e}<br><br>might be an equivalent exchange, right?=
<br><br>But what if the question is {do djica ma}?<br>A response that confe=
rs no information would be {zo&#39;e}.<br><br>What about (an admittedly con=
trived) {do djica ma ma}?<br>

You&#39;d need to respond {zo&#39;e zo&#39;e}, right?<br><br>So is there a =
single response that covers all those possibilities?<br>{su}?=A0 I don&#39;=
t quite like that.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=A0=A0=
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R</div>

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