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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > I think nolxarnu [lo nu pensi]...myself. > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn > wrote: > > That sounds like something I would say after I have heard all the > > suggestions and wish to express that I will now go and consider > everything > > that was told to me. > > Although being open to suggestions does not mean that one is committed = to > > following any suggestions, it would be inaccurate to say if one were > > unwilling to follow any suggestions. > > Let's see if I can express myself in lojban: > > .i broda cei nu la'e zoi .gy. open to suggestions .gy. .i lo nu selgi'a > > nupre kei na smuni lo broda .i ku'i su I give up. > > > > > > 2011/1/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn > >> wrote: > >> > I hadn't even been thinking along those lines; thank you. > >> > However, {bredi} seems to me not to indicate any openness or > >> > willingness; I > >> > could be planning to reject every proposition. > >> > >> Being open to suggestions doesn't mean you are committed to following > >> any suggestions, just to consider them. Maybe you could say: "mi bredi > >> lo nu pensi ro se stidi" > >> > >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Alex R > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 Alex R --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Thu, Jan 6, 201= 1 at 12:48 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
I think nolxarnu [lo nu pensi]...myself.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
> That sounds like something I would say after I have heard all the
> suggestions and wish to express that I will now go and consider everyt= hing
> that was told to me.
> Although being open to suggestions does not mean that one is committed= to
> following any suggestions, it would be inaccurate to say if one were > unwilling to follow any suggestions.
> Let's see if I can express myself in lojban:
> .i broda cei nu la'e zoi .gy. open to suggestions .gy. .i lo nu se= lgi'a
> nupre kei na smuni lo broda .i ku'i su I give up.
>
>
> 2011/1/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= jjllambias@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I hadn't even been thinking along those lines; thank you.=
>> > However, {bredi} seems to me not to indicate any openness or<= br> >> > willingness; I
>> > could be planning to reject every proposition.
>>
>> Being open to suggestions doesn't mean you are committed to fo= llowing
>> any suggestions, just to consider them. Maybe you could say: "= ;mi bredi
>> lo nu pensi ro se stidi"
>>
>> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>>
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>
>
>
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