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Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] cfika Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:43:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201101021543.26127.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 3019 On Sunday 02 January 2011 13:20:45 xaujbes cindustus wrote: > .i puku casti nanbakni co cmene la djeris goi ko'a .i la djeris xabju le Something unspecified is a named {casti} southcow, and the name belongs to= =20 Djeris, but you don't say what the name is, or who or what Djeris is. > cange .i ko'a cusku lu uinai oi mi sepli le ro bakni li'u .i la djeris > cusku lu mi badri ti li'e .i la camdjan goi ko'e cusku lu ko gleki li'e .= i Looks like you got "li'e" (a preposition meaning "preceded by") confused=20 with "li'u" (end quote). > go'e cusku lu do ponse bi lo pendo li'e .i la djeris cusku lu le mi pendo > ma li'e .i la camdjan cusku lu le ci jipci pendo do .ije le xarju pendo d= o > .ije le ci lanme pendo do .ije mi pendo do li'e .i ko'e cusku lu ji'a mi > ba terve'u ninbakni la redjed .ije le ninbakni cmene la rosas li'e .i la If Camdjan will be a buying newcow of the Redjed breed, what is she now?=20 What's the relation between the newcow's name and Rosas? Who or what is=20 Rosas? > djeris gleki .i ko'a cusku lu ki'e le mi pendo la camdjan li'e .i ko'a > cusku lu u'ecai uicai mi prami le mi pendo .ije mi ba prami la rosas li'e > .i ui la djeris e le ko'a pendo cu gleki .ije ko'a ce le ro pendo cu kelc= i The conjunction "ce" makes a set, in this case one with two elements, the= =20 second being all the friends taken together (I think that with "ro le pendo= "=20 each friend would be a member, but xorxes has thought more on the "ro le"/"= le=20 ro" distinction). Sets can't play. They have cardinality, and members, and= =20 they can be joined and intersected, but not much else. I think you mean "jo= i"=20 or "jo'u" or "e". On Sunday 02 January 2011 15:08:32 xaujbes cindustus wrote: > ki'e casti is actually a typo I was aware of but which somehow persisted > into this draft, and had been supposed to be zasti. > > nanbakni was intended to be 'ox' by prefixing the rafsi > for nanmu. Apparantly I was mistaken about the correct rafsi, which I now > see is 'nau' instead of 'nan'. (Although I just plugged that into the > translator and it comes back as 'reference point cow'. ?) The correct form is "naurbakni", but "nakybakni" is semantically better,=20 since "nanmu" means a male human. "naubakni" falls apart; "nau" means "now"= =20 even if "ki" has set the default tense to something else. ta'o le nakni bak= ni=20 cu bunre xunre > Does 'camdjan' come across as the intended 'Farmer John' or does it just > look like a sound that could be a name? Just sounds like a name to me. Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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