Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcnlS-0005cd-SV; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:45 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf3322yia.16 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=6JoSv/D8YuD69WUqKU9OK6hWWMZbnZXJSCTVp216xkg=; b=BwzPuEun/4Tykxxi//R9NaUs8+XVimrTU7GbFXkBmm+7M+pDhgwlVjsGlctf4UnDeo arRdhoaf9wj4EWf6HqGWnO5I0JePQBUwUzvhoomn5Xq/B1atLsGxJMNil2T1uJYEYyXK kAirJ4owiANOxm8YzEWLy0M15qp6aTsW+yKtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=YSEr3H54L3VEQyNDW2ZqEJjuqf7KZg3rJezbh3p9UGd0QJXgk5vadF2VQxZAjeqpVz GiV6ggEJC9fKIu03sEhcfdrnCo6YRLENK921aJBlUpSlVX5jfZz9uFGYOtfk0KC16Auv 8GNUpmPZ/3O0yKKyG3BKPzgyFnEmRHFT2RX60= Received: by 10.236.110.1 with SMTP id t1mr26630yhg.5.1294788980299; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:20 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.239.3 with SMTP id m3ls20032anh.0.p; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.208.7 with SMTP id f7mr56951ang.23.1294788979695; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.208.7 with SMTP id f7mr56950ang.23.1294788979677; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c18si12279anc.6.2011.01.11.15.36.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.44 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.213.44; Received: by ywk9 with SMTP id 9so8389119ywk.3 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.121.6 with SMTP id t6mr170019anc.17.1294788979447; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (104.sub-69-96-220.myvzw.com [69.96.220.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t1sm43543ano.23.2011.01.11.15.36.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:36:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:36:11 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: tatoeba-lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define" Message-ID: <20110111233610.GA39825@104.sub-69-96-220.myvzw.com> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com, tatoeba-lojban@googlegroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.44 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 831 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 06:31:11PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > [1]Above all, logic requires precise definitions. > > {ra'u lo logji ku se sarcu lo satci me'oi .definition.} > > (forgive me if I misued {me'oi}; I'm not yet well versed in importing > words) > > .i ma valsi lo me'oi .definition. > Isn't that cmene? A definition is associating a symbol with some thing/concept, which is what cmene does. -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.