Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pcnyd-0005x0-3w; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:50:19 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf3105wyb.16 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:50:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Q7ji0yWbPBbTckGuCrdhExCw8GrM+WP8s9n0RG8+fyo=; b=5yEnE4TfAkndm3sJuBKRn07T3J4bv/YFf94vvoKEt2+K4hG12nXqmN3aidnB+RRqKx 4tSo9giAjP2BpKZqPXSCVBWEP6qrmwVGHrK+rBUFKTA6SS5LEC+/lRNAx7PJOtF3Y+6R JtwkU/KsqijDgVaSDyzr7X0Eg7yoZv6CViNrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2Z5fA9pH/25fDr6euq8JYfNOrz42Wzl8TkMOUOakBTYx9iZdMxkHTIcpwyvSCpbkIB 6p5A//p65aae+4hTP/RaszqLhxpwxNOccedbJiKqzLHQxuyt4ynO/skxuVMUtbKfCPDJ pommKEDS2YZSsD65pGXbhv7OaYPo5aFQmi5wY= Received: by 10.216.173.84 with SMTP id u62mr714238wel.14.1294789795843; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:55 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.135.201 with SMTP id u49ls7209eei.0.p; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.53.2 with SMTP id f2mr55827eec.23.1294789794793; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.53.2 with SMTP id f2mr55825eec.23.1294789794727; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si15111eeh.4.2011.01.11.15.49.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.181; Received: by eyh6 with SMTP id 6so2481eyh.40 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.4.134 with SMTP id 6mr561737ebr.14.1294789793379; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.28.73 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:49:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110111233610.GA39825@104.sub-69-96-220.myvzw.com> References: <20110111233610.GA39825@104.sub-69-96-220.myvzw.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:49:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define" From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com, tatoeba-lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1712b174c704999abd58 Content-Length: 4218 --0015174c1712b174c704999abd58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But {cmene} explicitly lacks any place for "meaning". {valsi} might work, but it still seems weird. I was thinking something along the lines of "standardized meaning" On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:36 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 06:31:11PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > [1]Above all, logic requires precise definitions. > > > > {ra'u lo logji ku se sarcu lo satci me'oi .definition.} > > > > (forgive me if I misued {me'oi}; I'm not yet well versed in importing > > words) > > > > .i ma valsi lo me'oi .definition. > > > > Isn't that cmene? > > A definition is associating a symbol with some thing/concept, which > is what cmene does. > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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{valsi} = might work, but it still seems weird.

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