Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcpMS-0007eP-Ed; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:55 -0800 Received: by qyl38 with SMTP id 38sf273952qyl.16 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=o9CaS7S2SW8nVX54nftSalzx7zE3vQ8ceQYjgCoBfBg=; b=LUtzrfcMZg/uOUoRHMPWHSnV95s9yAh2/Q1YkgGh/ngwrohePncMDE2Nac3/QMk8jF XteX51WkuKmqTXNkA3vtdfmvnNa7YcEoOm6yBI1eN4d+Mnb7AUuz/LTbJbt59SRmWLiM mOhjK7pp/Cdl8wGuXzXfBwqzlMQ2V3yikjuUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=tttFTTtqZ4zAcIvuoe63YB83kilQVGAtQcQ+7nontXJrTGtUPZPrfXCL3+71ZqiGbP 6tTiNdNKNKg3NVwk+GfCp4uGX2f+CxcDgmimZ8FvoWWIamxuNNT8vOrK7BHW1BiVDD78 TlOA67v+7jwBczK7qSJw6zEo2IQXjPO780474= Received: by 10.229.67.133 with SMTP id r5mr54529qci.34.1294795117541; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.80.196 with SMTP id u4ls70168qck.0.p; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.34.13 with SMTP id j13mr40882qcd.24.1294795116821; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.34.13 with SMTP id j13mr40881qcd.24.1294795116803; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k7si21402qcu.6.2011.01.11.17.18.36; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=4Abt-lS488wA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=HTmyVh-i222CzZTRaXwA:9 a=2UFCrGHy0Kyh0jgyHX-k0myrItkA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:54923] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3A/28-02631-B610D2D4; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:18:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF43131FA for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:18:35 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:18:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201101112018.32029.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 803 On Tuesday 11 January 2011 19:19:50 Luke Bergen wrote: > so why not selvla? I think to define is to specify the meaning, but I don't know how to=20 say "specify". We have "specific", but not "specify". We also have "ca'e",= =20 but it doesn't have a rafsi. "ca'esmu" is glossed as "push-ing-meaning(s)??= ". Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.