Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pd3TW-0003xQ-Vr; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:23:10 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf544743gwj.16 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:23:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=x2oOWej0rZFpzotYx57KQL3sZ47dDqYG4e7OBln3cFo=; b=GuOjcLlmh0df9k7RatAfbKoMqLBfUO6teV/4bJakivLpA75PeenHjuDzSdcegkYlXt /6P2tqlE5lImBnTRCyODooPCuQOGkPVBD7GxDRXNEfANEUFs7qMRKeNzmlT9SCB1U9e5 QlS/usvDEwWAgj4LhCbr41GPyKbJu1fbU8kJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=fnj8rALAC/S+eOaDn8X2J/HWdW4RF3l+1sX4vkhyMYcJ0ACSU82Xv2yRkiVyQeXhAj BiOBge+bzfytYhJJpnzuCnv3wQ8pjkMhyoDAPIJA7pxRvO8/p/BkuZ5/DCDTY0xrFJx+ 8/JDTwYVRXKvqZ/l7nTOgRKDI8Iw4NoUrd5sE= Received: by 10.100.226.18 with SMTP id y18mr32501ang.76.1294849372604; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls876774ibb.1.p; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.34.6 with SMTP id j6mr963840ibd.10.1294849371841; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.34.6 with SMTP id j6mr963839ibd.10.1294849371793; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f175.google.com (mail-iy0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d9si201841ibq.7.2011.01.12.08.22.50; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.175; Received: by mail-iy0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 18so663554iyj.6 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.19 with SMTP id eq19mr1160030ibb.175.1294849370642; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:22:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201101121112.38216.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201101112018.32029.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4D2D97F6.8060402@lojban.org> <201101121112.38216.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define" From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba53a6aec658410499a89cbd Content-Length: 4622 --90e6ba53a6aec658410499a89cbd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I feel special now. After 24 long years, I am no longer (nor ever will be again)... a tosp. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 12 January 2011 07:00:54 Bob LeChevalier, President and > Founder - > LLG wrote: > > What does "specify" mean (other than as a pretentious word for 'say')? > > %^) I'm not sure whether it is really all that close to either to the > > concepts specific or species as used in the gismu list > > A few weeks ago I defined "=E1=BC=80=CF=86=CE=B5=CE=B4=CF=81=CF=8E=CE=BD"= as "toilet, latrine" in Wiktionary. > It's a > word I found while reading the Bible in Greek, and there's only one other > occurrence in known Ancient Greek writings. I did not specify the meaning= ; > I > described or asserted the meaning. When I was a kid, I defined "tosp" as > "one > who does not know what a tosp is". Since this was a new word and a new > concept, I specified the meaning. > > Pierre > -- > li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --90e6ba53a6aec658410499a89cbd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I feel special now. =C2=A0After 24 long years, I am no longer (nor ever wil= l be again)... a tosp.

On Wed, Jan 12, 20= 11 at 11:12 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 07:00:54 Bob L= eChevalier, President and Founder -
LLG wrote:
> What does "specify" mean (other than as a pretentious word f= or 'say')?
> %^) =C2=A0I'm not sure whether it is really all that close to eith= er to the
> concepts specific or species as used in the gismu list

A few weeks ago I defined "=E1=BC=80=CF=86=CE=B5=CE=B4=CF=81=CF= =8E=CE=BD" as "toilet, latrine" in Wiktionary. It's a word I found while reading the Bible in Greek, and there's only one oth= er
occurrence in known Ancient Greek writings. I did not specify the meaning; = I
described or asserted the meaning. When I was a kid, I defined "tosp&q= uot; as "one
who does not know what a tosp is". Since this was a new word and a new=
concept, I specified the meaning.

Pierre
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li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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