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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Ambiguous lujvo?
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On Sunday 16 January 2011 06:45:45 ianek wrote:
> coi
> What about lujvo on form CCVCCVCCVCV or CCVCCVCCVCCV etc.? In a 4-
> syllable word it's hard not to stress the first syllable, so they
> become unrecognizable from tanru CCVCCV CCVCV and CCVCCV CCVCCV. The
> CLL doesn't force any pause in such tanru according to
> http://dag.github.com/cll/4/9/ and there is no rule to insert a hyphen in
> the middle of the lujvo (in fact, words in form CCVCCVrCCVCCV like
> *{xlagrurblakla} are recognized by vlatai as bad fu'ivla).
> Correct me if I'm wrong.

You just have to be careful when pronouncing such words. Fortunately, getting 
the stress or juncture wrong in a word like this will only add the ambiguity 
that a tanru has, or change the grouping, not change the meaning to something 
totally different as dropping the r-hyphen would. A real example which 
doesn't quite fit your form is "baupla fuzykamni". Drop the stress on "bau" 
and you get "bauplafuzykamni", which is just a single word with the same 
morphemes.

Here's a stress exercise: lo jbojbe na lojbo jbena lo jbojbena.

An r-hyphen can be inserted only after a CVV or CV'V rafsi. The wordoid you 
gave is a slinku'i: x-lag-rur-bla-kla. What is a xlagrublakla, anyway?

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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