Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Peu7M-00015R-6L; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:55 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf4250246gxk.16 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=T73zfbtOQE0Vm38niLm9EszQDa/fDjaKaAYGXVSNkxA=; b=SQbafXnSSclPj4oxKIr/NadiRl8pd5PSnkk9HmE2Fms3Esvi+QEkxaIJ/BJLX4rNYz DSrdjZDAxVTwDwBeVLxqw3r3DyWaedN5gEwDvTMehcuu3bPoTYDrKzAq5qfoOX5Km505 EXTnP73E6aqwS4e3Fd9feLwBGXGwJcQ3VU8ko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=XAeMGn63Z2yKSj6inYBKzYpSdb2nemRueoXa/rKIZGSooMZPC2lJRwRMxur0F7VQlW wpDK9nCxA5VCNCMxInJbQgkXINe+QHn9FLdLXEuVoZhmnvUrPZrpsx923gJPxJIO8X/w e31548diJ5WXO/CIZcNVPjDcLelKGhbLEnoA8= Received: by 10.90.98.12 with SMTP id v12mr326105agb.2.1295290057728; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls3910452ibi.2.p; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.10.139 with SMTP id p11mr1129728ibp.12.1295290056872; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.10.139 with SMTP id p11mr1129727ibp.12.1295290056841; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu19si1219289ibb.1.2011.01.17.10.47.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-iw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 40so6045214iwn.4 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.36.198 with SMTP id u6mr4676442ibd.100.1295290048195; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:47:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201101112018.32029.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4D2D97F6.8060402@lojban.org> <201101121112.38216.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:47:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define" From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0021cc022382342cd7049a0f3712 Content-Length: 4380 --0021cc022382342cd7049a0f3712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In that case then nevermind, you're right. If you want specificity like "definition" as in those things that you find in webster's dictionary then just use selvla. If you're looking for something more generic like a "function definition" then {smuni} should be fine. On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Oleksii Melnyk > wrote: > > > > > > 2011/1/17 Luke Bergen > >> > >> {lo smuni be lo cukta} to talk about the moral of a book or what that > >> book means in a social > > > > PS: {lo smuni be zo WORD}, sorry. > > Exactly. And as previously mentioned, if you are restricting it to > the domain of a word, then selvla is even more precise. But Alex said > he didn't want to restrict to words/phrases. Hence, smuni. > > --gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0021cc022382342cd7049a0f3712 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In that case then nevermind, you're right. =A0If you want specificity l= ike "definition" as in those things that you find in webster'= s dictionary then just use selvla. =A0If you're looking for something m= ore generic like a "function definition" then {smuni} should be f= ine.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Tur= niansky <mtur= niansky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Oleksii Melnyk <lamelnyk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 2011/1/17 Luke Bergen <luk= eabergen@gmail.com>
>>
>> =A0{lo smuni be lo cukta} to talk about the moral of a book or wha= t that
>> book means in a social
>
> PS: {lo smuni be zo WORD}, sorry.

=A0Exactly. =A0And as previously mentioned, if you are restricting i= t to
the domain of a word, then selvla is even more precise. But Alex said
he didn't want to restrict to words/phrases. =A0Hence, smuni.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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