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If I remember correctly:
.i ko'a broda no da .ijo ko'a na broda
That is, if there does not exist anything such that ko'a broda's them, then
ko'a does not broda in general, and vice versa.
On the other hand {ko'a broda zi'o} and {ko'a broda da} are essentially
unrelated sentences, because {broda zi'o} is essentially an entirely new
relation. I'm not sure about {ko'a broda zi'o po'o}, though.

mu'o mi'e .latros.
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>wrote:

> Was my subject line clear and correct, and could it be more succinct?
>
> I feel like I'm missing some subtlety in the difference between the use of
> {zi'o} and the use of {noda}.  If I say {noda klama} I'm saying that there
> does not exist anyone that goes (in the obvious from context manner).  If I
> say {zi'o klama}, am I talking about a type of going which does not involve
> a goer (I acknowledge that this is slightly nonsensical; I'm just trying to
> understand).
>
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If I remember correctly:<br>.i ko&#39;a broda no da .ijo ko&#39;a na broda<=
br>That is, if there does not exist anything such that ko&#39;a broda&#39;s=
 them, then ko&#39;a does not broda in general, and vice versa.<br>On the o=
ther hand {ko&#39;a broda zi&#39;o} and {ko&#39;a broda da} are essentially=
 unrelated sentences, because {broda zi&#39;o} is essentially an entirely n=
ew relation. I&#39;m not sure about {ko&#39;a broda zi&#39;o po&#39;o}, tho=
ugh.<br>
<br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .latros.<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 19=
, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:rpglover64@gmail.com">rpglover64@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Was my subject line clear and correct, and could it be more succinct?<br><b=
r>I feel like I&#39;m missing some subtlety in the difference between the u=
se of {zi&#39;o} and the use of {noda}.=A0 If I say {noda klama} I&#39;m sa=
ying that there does not exist anyone that goes (in the obvious from contex=
t manner).=A0 If I say {zi&#39;o klama}, am I talking about a type of going=
 which does not involve a goer (I acknowledge that this is slightly nonsens=
ical; I&#39;m just trying to understand).<br clear=3D"all">

<br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R</div></div><b=
r><font color=3D"#888888">

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