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But site is really sait, in IPA: /sa=C9=AAt/, which is, btw, the exactly
pronunciation of bite.

And Luke, in American English the vowels in "pie" and "pipe" have
again the exactly same pronunciation.
(and there's the whole trouble of local varieties etc)

So yeah, I agree with Timo: it is not only terrible to use English for
that, but also almost useless.

On 22 January 2011 16:28, Timo Paulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> w=
rote:
> On 01/22/2011 07:22 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
>> Really? =C2=A0I find that I pronounce bite like lojban byit. =C2=A0Maybe=
 a better
>> example of yi in english is "site". =C2=A0When I say "site" out loud in =
english
>> there is absolutely no hint of the lojban "a" sound.
>>
>> I think that in general english "s[i]te" and "b[uy]" are two different a=
nd
>> distinct diphthongs
>>
>
> Please, please, please, please, please, please stop using english words
> to refer to pronunciation. This is the most terrible thing you (all of
> you!) could ever, EVER do. Please don't. Seriously. Thanks
> =C2=A0- Timo
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