Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PgrIU-0008La-WA; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:30 -0800 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6sf7989222qwd.16 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=2WvCuaKGn81tmzpATydc1m4gq4gF5VZRS/0lX7ZCmqg=; b=oKV3McT5it6doSgEHGGowt78eY8n58hTNMZvcXI1SjyS87m/0/QyNBVGqH6Ic7Z1gx TX2ow/6+NVeRJpa0rCouvLpR6F27ADVcWkDp0f/WtftluvP4FLlxJEcrf6fSOTXzGyyY Z4gc/1tOM5N+jVFpeN0G7LRGn/smK2ntWvjMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=by99JI4sAlgJHTkTHSX2xbNCfL+ukF/xXxouwg2YnTRw6AgdObFsa1CPIunK0Z9Enr PPcTg5OS0+tIRtj5nBrfegYN270uXbmJLCzPioO1Ew9ECizcAzu8SHvUqf/60ONueODB TjFcl1DvUSx623y/xvi5nbv5xzcu1vmK0yt5o= Received: by 10.229.67.232 with SMTP id s40mr303096qci.49.1295755869055; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.197.8 with SMTP id ei8ls1098228qcb.1.p; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.85.10 with SMTP id m10mr283081qcl.21.1295755868414; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.85.10 with SMTP id m10mr283080qcl.21.1295755868393; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k7si2561625qcu.14.2011.01.22.20.11.08; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Inhw+Jdt7z1D3BivGPfn2aw54OvUEJw5lAn/booRZkE= c=1 sm=0 a=lB0PHvjMBpAA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=AHNO8sH1MFHahs7vma0A:9 a=H2vQGQpSKYApSPcKVnV2UaSBFIMA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:58896] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id EC/DE-13137-B5AAB3D4; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:11:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1550D32F7 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:11:06 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Questions on the sounds chosen for Lojban Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:11:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <7a56acc4-c2ce-47fe-ba09-b1f6a61eb59d@c39g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <201101222052.29967.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201101222311.04942.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 759 On Saturday 22 January 2011 22:29:18 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > So does "bite" sound kinda like "buy 't" (where " 't " is "it" with the "i" > chopped off)? Yes. However, "Buitenzorg", being Dutch, I pronounce differently. ("uy" and "ui" are pronounced the same in Dutch, AFAIK, but are different from "ei" and "ij".) Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.