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( {.a} X-SAMPA ) On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 22 January 2011 22:29:18 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > So does "bite" sound kinda like "buy 't" (where " 't " is "it" with the > "i" > > chopped off)? > > Yes. However, "Buitenzorg", being Dutch, I pronounce differently. ("uy" > and "ui" are pronounced the same in Dutch, AFAIK, but are different from > "ei" > and "ij".) > > Pierre > -- > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Pierre Abbat <= phma@phma.optus.nu> wro= te:
On Saturday 22 January 2011 22:29:18 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> So does "bite" sound kinda like "buy 't" (wher= e " 't " is "it" with the "i"
> chopped off)?

Yes. However, "Buitenzorg", being Dutch, I pronounce differ= ently. ("uy"
and "ui" are pronounced the same in Dutch, AFAIK, but are differe= nt from "ei"
and "ij".)

Pierre
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