Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ph3hy-0003f2-4x; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:26:37 -0800 Received: by gwb20 with SMTP id 20sf2850797gwb.16 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:26:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xHodCXbrzDIwULvFgrRS4dN2bTcKUSbeqwK9nZSZWOs=; b=ZWgGR+Gcw50D1dDsFPLGLaeLmsP/TeFYBP3rAPZ2b35Yq9v2I6jmQJOxO9IC5wPAx+ +sEVzgZYx9DjrMDPo73VwxvouMADhv+w4UvgHOiPnsrnAirW/CFrGhnO+Rn9i5dek62B AjGy9pX8FyUE4dICKQzA6lZAPojBpfAWSvwDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=DlIVRa6EtZIj4Pnb9f3JijA9WOi8UXGTw7wuDUZE1UzIfGRnGkv3fooVt2PTT+GJ7A X3YQ5a6aVZU2r7QC+SnLwMxRLAY7KcjaoP+9UKDDYeEIC1kOTRmMjj5LqRG7DmXDDqFR a2n9EbWI0P0sxrXi3L8Splfd/YfydYKN8F2aU= Received: by 10.151.148.5 with SMTP id a5mr310712ybo.21.1295803559224; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:59 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls1180298ibb.1.p; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.209 with SMTP id o17mr1140120ibx.19.1295803558547; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.209 with SMTP id o17mr1140118ibx.19.1295803558529; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4si1324774ict.4.2011.01.23.09.25.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by iwn3 with SMTP id 3so3442408iwn.12 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.19 with SMTP id eq19mr3546629ibb.175.1295803557357; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:25:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] difference between pu'o and ba From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba53a6aebc2a7b049a86c657 Content-Length: 1885 --90e6ba53a6aebc2a7b049a86c657 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've read the CLL chapter on tenses at least 3 times by now and the interval contours still don't make intuitive sense to me. Could somebody explain the difference between {mi ba citka lo plise} and {mi pu'o citka lo plise}? I'm less fuzzy about the point contours like mo'u, co'a, co'i, etc... but pu'o, ca'o, and ba'o still don't seem very different from regular ba, ca, and pu respectively. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba53a6aebc2a7b049a86c657 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've read the CLL chapter on tenses at least 3 times by now and the int= erval contours still don't make intuitive sense to me. =A0Could somebod= y explain the difference between {mi ba citka lo plise} and {mi pu'o ci= tka lo plise}?

I'm less fuzzy about the point contours like mo'u, c= o'a, co'i, etc... but pu'o, ca'o, and ba'o still don= 9;t seem very different from regular ba, ca, and pu respectively.

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