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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <201101250942.26977.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 98.139.53.202 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1991 >=20 > On Tuesday 25 January 2011 08:59:22 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > With due respect to Pierre, janvari, frebuari etc just > > introduces an=A0anglo-bias into Lojban that will simply > > turn off potential non-anglo lojbanists. > > > > jbovlaste already has pavmasti, relmasti, cibmasti etc > > which seem to be just fine and consistent with > > pavdei, reldei etc for days. >=20 > "listopad" has a hemisphere bias, as do other non-Latin and non-number na= mes=20 > of Gregorian months. "pavmasti" would collide with non-Roman calendars, i= n=20 > which the first month is at different times of the year. As the Gregorian= =20 > calendar is the fourth version of the Roman calendar,=20 Yet the Roman calendar is used just about all over the world.=A0 Note that,= even=20 though the traditional Chinese and Japanese New Years do not coincide with = the=20 Western New Year, Jan 1st is now celebrated in both China and Japan. > I thought it fitting to=20 > take the names of the months from Latin, though the forms of the words ar= e=20 > taken from various languages ("ianvari" is from Russian, "madjio" is from= =20 > Italian) or from no particular language. A quick check of Wiktionary show= s a=20 > large plurality, possibly a majority, of languages using Latin-derived wo= rds=20 > for month names. >=20 But I don't think you should equate languages with only a 'few' speakers=20 to languages with 'many'.=A0 My guide (for fu'ivla, say) always is the weig= hted=20 vocabularies of Chinese, English, Spanish, Hindi, Spanish and Russian -=20 which of course is what were used to derive most gismu.=A0=20 totus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.