Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Phmhw-0007Ho-Tt; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:29:39 -0800 Received: by qyl38 with SMTP id 38sf14306qyl.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zjznQSt8VsqaXCE2Cz47So9Bwx9pF0wIE1OS/Qsr3iM=; b=QXP+h92XALV9gBG+3zJYM8KPTAr+h2QuTfujtxhOKlFbsGDVJWF2nKzx4zd4vP4MOd Zd/t1bbwdqmK4l76LcGlmQ6z1kYI34jYFWlXhpOZdTqU7YAYHW2D4OPHS8N1ujz6/ubE YuaLJ+Z644rYc6bIHrVg5D6KLP2UeTluGQDAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WyjgVVBwIscMVwzDvhWCXE+CIeXkIVeI6hZlSLOKWIF5+xFZzDV9z4C7jlpE3L0xBW 4qbI1mKwJWTt7FYfflSEpUMKnznfhX47kTL4U4n5OX8jYdhXXdMuYrLQ50gp7oTVrqAE 10y+TqxFwRo4vKG2u8AKe4BCQxF44FyLzZ5MI= Received: by 10.229.20.19 with SMTP id d19mr723590qcb.20.1295976019589; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.75.218 with SMTP id z26ls1816510qcj.3.p; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.229.137 with SMTP id ji9mr310636qcb.21.1295976017939; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.229.137 with SMTP id ji9mr310634qcb.21.1295976017898; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f43.google.com (mail-vw0-f43.google.com [209.85.212.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y9si3215225qcc.4.2011.01.25.09.20.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.43; Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so13075vws.30 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.95.200 with SMTP id e8mr4823398qcn.213.1295976016544; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.213.204 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:20:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] [some kind of] conditionals From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1185 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn wr= ote: > I'm sure there's a more precise linguistic term, but I don't know it. > > How do you express sentiments like "I *would* go to the store, but I'm > tired" (so I won't), possibly even omitting the secondary clause and leav= ing > the reason to be inferred. > > In a similar vein, how would you express "If I were rich, I'd be happy." > (English subjunctive mood?) > > Actually, If there's a good reference on conditionals, subjunctives, and > counterfactual statements as they apply to lojban, please point me in tha= t > direction. > > -- > =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R > > -- Limited though it is, the "da'i" is the marker for subjunctgive, and counterfactuals. "va'o da'i lo za'i mi ricfu kei mi gleki" --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.