Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Phrna-0005Z6-3c; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:56:04 -0800 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf4788046ywh.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:55:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:date:from:reply-to:to:message-id :in-reply-to:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QRgpFN4dV2fG3sUK8EDrEwoK4bh3lc5PVnsEuwB4WUo=; b=OJBKu7mjABv6BVNCVz6FNwGVF9Zkbr6z6pOb4cBFR+OZlW241URhinSaVCJa1BgLxF QqbZGIttT1vtNTwPAYtQrKf1XNN7qbd9exOK8vY7GjijSLH0KmfwK/feNnR9b0rcoYs0 3Lc1VgvIdEptHCkD0ajXUOhon1IiB6004nfvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:reply-to:to:message-id:in-reply-to:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=BmWfxNU0Bc9Wf2E9b5WtAcRKyDaiT9eALFPvgsVduSKy7QfGwRKQDIgFPdPqVJ0LIg yIuI9gJRxe7//geh1w7TSg74e9REaE0Y7BoORexjExNQjsQNFBrB2wv68C2f8WHpyPWV wNBIAdYSf5Fq2O0Ake3eKElrlMYFOtEodpbzE= Received: by 10.90.116.12 with SMTP id o12mr14586agc.49.1295996120516; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:55:20 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.18.19 with SMTP id v19ls16412agi.6.p; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.116.8 with SMTP id o8mr16033agc.42.1295996119860; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:55:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:55:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lindar Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <5893662.473.1295996118205.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prhq39> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_472_26944517.1295996118203" Content-Length: 3092 ------=_Part_472_26944517.1295996118203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 These are all -religious- concepts putting the sabbath as the last numbered day of the week. Sadly, the secular world starts on Monday, and Lojban is a secular language. We've not arrived at a single conclusion, but we have what I've seen to be four main options. 1. Stick to the classic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it looks retarded ('oneday' rather than 'firstday'). 2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}. 3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning. 4. Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of any natural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are translated from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a God, and Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former). Unless we have some rational alternate option, I think we should vote on one of these four in a last-man-standing kind of tournament. Vote on all four, the one least liked gets dropped, rinse, repeat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_472_26944517.1295996118203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable These are all -religious- concepts putting the sabbath as the last numbered= day of the week. Sadly, the secular world starts on Monday, and Lojban is = a secular language. We've not arrived at a single conclusion, but we have w= hat I've seen to be four main options.

1. Stick to the c= lassic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it looks retarded ('oneday= ' rather than 'firstday').
2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}.<= /div>
3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning.
4= . Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of any n= atural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are translated= from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a God, and = Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former).

Unless we have some rational alternate option, I think we s= hould vote on one of these four in a last-man-standing kind of tournament. = Vote on all four, the one least liked gets dropped, rinse, repeat.

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