Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pi5z6-0004E4-DA; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:35 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf666126vws.16 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JZtfv1gyOAOcye7xVlJbTq90ml/101Ibg99BoLy6I9I=; b=tg42mXI1ClqvHqqFsaVeUkUFQzfRetWeZln3Q9ikJXzJyy49h4yu+GF6o5FhEYVoxM NI61Y+VE86jITQJo9962c3mePrZn39sWb1QM6YustB0lAG03J1/z5HeEwGbZ3CAD3+ln CMAGLpQHebLXRZKlkxiGSYhpd1ORmNWhME6hs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4x045trlzuOrb6+Er2CKZkrHnGwphk6CpvGvymG0O6xU3ZRTiCFlUDIBn9VaIj9kIQ M5st44FNYo5LtTC5pfBa6rb1BdphesBEoGyv/h9uwUYp1w+gMEk+HneYramFK1Esm7zh zeo2FkARsOedVY3hu7DTlGHlx2vM/TXcjMeTI= Received: by 10.220.190.75 with SMTP id dh11mr340988vcb.21.1296050654941; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.67.30 with SMTP id p30ls66123vci.3.p; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.185.71 with SMTP id cn7mr2298078vcb.10.1296050653709; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.185.71 with SMTP id cn7mr2298077vcb.10.1296050653680; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c37si1160752vcs.14.2011.01.26.06.04.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.44; Received: by mail-qw0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 2so915872qwi.17 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.84 with SMTP id ld20mr439290qcb.128.1296050652452; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.118.212 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:04:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5893662.473.1295996118205.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prhq39> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:04:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f443c018fc049ac04eca Content-Length: 6242 --00163630f443c018fc049ac04eca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Being completely honest and serious for a moment... your idea was my favorite gejyspa. I'm not sure why people didn't take it seriously. I think one of the complaints was "but it's still starting the cycles at a constant spot so it might not be acceptable for some cultures" to which I say "well, it has to start somewhere and yes, sometimes learning a foreign language is difficult". On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Lindar wrote: > > These are all -religious- concepts putting the sabbath as the last > numbered > > day of the week. Sadly, the secular world starts on Monday, and Lojban is > a > > secular language. We've not arrived at a single conclusion, but we have > what > > I've seen to be four main options. > > 1. Stick to the classic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it > looks > > retarded ('oneday' rather than 'firstday'). > > 2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}. > > 3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning. > > 4. Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of > any > > natural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are > translated > > from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a God, and > > Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former). > > Unless we have some rational alternate option, I think we should vote on > one > > of these four in a last-man-standing kind of tournament. Vote on all > four, > > the one least liked gets dropped, rinse, repeat. > > Sorry, I'm still campaigning for my color based system > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/a2d5fd068451d768 > --gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --00163630f443c018fc049ac04eca Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being completely honest and serious for a moment... your idea was my favori= te gejyspa. =A0I'm not sure why people didn't take it seriously. = =A0I think one of the complaints was "but it's still starting the = cycles at a constant spot so it might not be acceptable for some cultures&q= uot; to which I say "well, it has to start somewhere and yes, sometime= s learning a foreign language is difficult".


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at = 8:06 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> These are all -religious- concepts putting the= sabbath as the last numbered
> day of the week. Sadly, the secular world starts on Monday, and Lojban= is a
> secular language. We've not arrived at a single conclusion, but we= have what
> I've seen to be four main options.
> 1. Stick to the classic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it l= ooks
> retarded ('oneday' rather than 'firstday').
> 2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}.
> 3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning.
> 4. Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of= any
> natural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are tran= slated
> from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a G= od, and
> Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former).<= br> > Unless we have some rational alternate option, I think we should vote = on one
> of these four in a last-man-standing kind of tournament. Vote on all f= our,
> the one least liked gets dropped, rinse, repeat.

=A0Sorry, I'm still campaigning for my color based system
http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/a2d5fd068451d768
=A0 --gejyspa

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