On Wed, Jan= 26, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Michael Eaton <michael.eaton@blackpool.gov.uk> wrote:

Whatever syste= m or derivation is used, it will always be arbitrary.

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Subject: Re: [lojban-begin= ners] days of the week

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As an avid admirer of logic in Mandarin Chinese, my = initial position was that numbered days are just more logical, more straightforward, etc.

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But wow!=A0Using colors makes way more sense if it&#= 39;s something that naturally cycles in sevens... otherwise, it's still totally arbitrary (= okay, i mean "practical") to choose a seven-day cycle.

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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 09:06, Michael Eaton <michael.ea= ton@blackpool.gov.uk> wrote:

Agreed. The co= unter-argument, of course, being =93starting the cycles from a moving point might not be acceptable to other cultures=94.

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Just one of th= ose things.

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From: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Luke Bergen
Sent: 26 January 2011 14:04

To: lojb= an-beginners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week

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Being completely honest and serious for a moment... your idea was my favorite gejyspa. =A0I'm not sure why people didn'= t take it seriously. =A0I think one of the complaints was "but it's still starting the cycles at a constant spot so it might not be acceptable for so= me cultures" to which I say "well, it has to start somewhere and yes= , sometimes learning a foreign language is difficult".

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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@= gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.c= om> wrote:

> These are all -religious- concepts putting the sabbath as the last numbered
> day of the week. Sadly, the secular world starts on Monday, and Lojban= is a
> secular language. We've not arrived at a single conclusion, but we= have what
> I've seen to be four main options.
> 1. Stick to the classic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it l= ooks
> retarded ('oneday' rather than 'firstday').
> 2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}.
> 3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning.
> 4. Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of= any
> natural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are translated
> from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a G= od, and
> Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former).<= br> > Unless we have some rational alternate option, I think we should vote = on one
> of these four in a last-man-standing kind of tournament. Vote on all f= our,
> the one least liked gets dropped, rinse, repeat.

=A0Sorry, I'm still campaigning for my color bas= ed system
http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/a2d5fd068451d768
=A0 --gejyspa

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