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(I'm keeping this here because newbies -should- be reading this. There are 
good lessons to be learned in what I'm saying here.)

1. Lujvo don't have to mean EXACTLY the sum of their components and nothing 
more. {nikyge'u} means like the English equivalent "big fish", for example. 
{nunkei} doesn't mean 'playing', it means 'a game'. You have to realise that 
lujvo exist to be more than just short tanru. For all intents and purposes, 
if we -say- that {pavdei} means "x1 is the first day of week x2" then it 
means that. Oh well.

2. {pavmomdei} might be better for that purpose, but it lacks the whole 
day/week/month/year place either way unless we decide to arbitrarily add it.

3. {detri} seems perfect. It has the appropriate places, and we should use 
it for -something-. {lo seldetri be li pa} is "the first". It doesn't 
specify the week, so we can assume it means "Monday". We could also simply 
put {pavdetri} because it's the 1 day of ? week of ? month of ? year (cos we 
didn't specify), which means that it's a Monday.

4. Cycling colours? Gejyspa, I hate the colours you picked (because there's 
no logical order to them). So, Red Yellow Green Cyan Blue Magenta Black ? 
Sounds lovely to me. Primary Secondary Primary Secondary Primary Secondary 
Black. How you had it was Primary Tertiary Secondary Primary Secondary 
Primary Tertiary, which makes little sense. So, xundei, peldei, ri'odei, 
cicnydei, bladei, nukdei, xekydei. Which reminds me, ctino needs to bring up 
eir colour proposal again to the BPFK. I really need to push that through.

5. We're not adding a new gismu that means either of those things. We have 
{detri} which already has that meaning. Make up a zi'evla if you want to 
have those words and I'll probably end up using them.

6. If we're actually going to decide, let's bring it to the BPFK with all of 
our ideas and ask the jatna for a decision.

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<meta charset=3D"utf-8"><div>(I'm keeping this here because newbies -should=
- be reading this. There are good lessons to be learned in what I'm saying =
here.)</div><div><br></div><div>1. Lujvo don't have to mean EXACTLY the sum=
 of their components and nothing more. {nikyge'u} means like the English eq=
uivalent "big fish", for example. {nunkei} doesn't mean 'playing', it means=
 'a game'. You have to realise that lujvo exist to be more than just short =
tanru. For all intents and purposes, if we -say- that {pavdei} means "x1 is=
 the first day of week x2" then it means that. Oh well.</div><div><br></div=
><div>2. {pavmomdei} might be better for that purpose, but it lacks the who=
le day/week/month/year place either way unless we decide to arbitrarily add=
 it.</div><div><br></div><div>3. {detri} seems perfect. It has the appropri=
ate places, and we should use it for -something-. {lo seldetri be li pa} is=
 "the first". It doesn't specify the week, so we can assume it means "Monda=
y". We could also simply put {pavdetri} because it's the 1 day of ? week of=
 ? month of ? year (cos we didn't specify), which means that it's a Monday.=
</div><div><br></div><div>4. Cycling colours? Gejyspa, I hate the colours y=
ou picked (because there's no logical order to them). So, Red Yellow Green =
Cyan Blue Magenta Black ? Sounds lovely to me. Primary Secondary Primary Se=
condary Primary Secondary Black. How you had it was Primary Tertiary Second=
ary Primary Secondary Primary Tertiary, which makes little sense. So, xunde=
i, peldei, ri'odei, cicnydei, bladei, nukdei, xekydei. Which reminds me, ct=
ino needs to bring up eir colour proposal again to the BPFK. I really need =
to push that through.</div><div><br></div><div>5. We're not adding a new gi=
smu that means either of those things. We have {detri} which already has th=
at meaning. Make up a zi'evla if you want to have those words and I'll prob=
ably end up using them.</div><div><br></div><div>6. If we're actually going=
 to decide, let's bring it to the BPFK with all of our ideas and ask the ja=
tna for a decision.</div>

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