Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PiMFc-0005md-Br; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:43 -0800 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf492585pzk.16 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=62JyQlg2ZS9ZMl8eaTMyf/M4TQlZ2EUy9Qf7IoR24Ho=; b=qOCWMDcXZ0vNDcEiqjuAOnH+KvZauqAgoUf7iHjy1tEPmyZjvcrp1to6zeQVMvh0Ur mKPNNVwwHFN2tDprf29qTAMlw7LD6mwCVukaRZda3b7avzrOa6Eo+7C+2da88DSuTFEH DuKy+K7xioQLzdpoFySlm+28gJbZPTwsY0+x8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=lSN4rIpn9NPrA7PfzyExGV0G/haNu1o6hqtRyN173cSoAA1qywERuYVXMP9XBPo47a u8sYcWDjX0l3Ltz79LnV8h+llCf17n8HTHOut4wW61+X4rc64NmsLPsLJ/MldAld3u8a 63TpjDGlRy7mSuPfSUhVpBHlSaoFcCzlk10Ps= Received: by 10.142.115.16 with SMTP id n16mr87889wfc.17.1296113183044; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.249.41 with SMTP id w41ls2172206wfh.1.p; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.127.3 with SMTP id z3mr293049wfc.34.1296113182148; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.127.3 with SMTP id z3mr293046wfc.34.1296113182042; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f175.google.com (mail-px0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w13si18004958wfh.7.2011.01.26.23.26.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.175; Received: by pxi17 with SMTP id 17so243600pxi.34 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.178.7 with SMTP id a7mr1373652wff.194.1296113180871; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.68.21 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:26:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:26:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Complicated parallelism question From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2db9ebc0f01049acedd0f Content-Length: 4472 --000e0cd2db9ebc0f01049acedd0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This will work with my {me'au}: .i ba za bo la lojban me'au lo selbri be le se go'i Still not all that concise, but it'd be hard to make concise (even with new cmavo), because you're trying to point at constituents of a NU bridi, and those could be arbitrarily nested. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > A long time ago, I read that loglan exists. > {.i mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo du'u la loglan zasti} > > And a medium time after that, that lojban does. > {.i ba za bo la lojban co'e} > > Is there a way to use something more precise than {co'e} in the second > phrase without sacrificing much conciseness? > I was considering {.i ba za bo go'i lo du'u la lojban zasti}, but {pamai} > I'm not sure if the {du'u} abstraction is referred to rather than the outer > bridi and {remai} I still have to repeat {zasti}. {cimai} it's not very > concise. > > -- > Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --000e0cd2db9ebc0f01049acedd0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This will work with my {me'au}:
.i ba za bo la lojban me'au lo s= elbri be le se go'i
Still not all that concise, but it'd be hard= to make concise (even with new cmavo), because you're trying to point = at constituents of a NU bridi, and those could be arbitrarily nested.

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Wed, Ja= n 26, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> A long time ago, I read that loglan exists.
{.i mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo = du'u la loglan zasti}

And a medium time after that= , that lojban does.
{.i ba za bo la lojban co'e}

Is there a w= ay to use something more precise than {co'e} in the second phrase witho= ut sacrificing much conciseness?
I was considering {.i ba za bo go'i lo du'u la lojban zasti}, but {= pamai} I'm not sure if the {du'u} abstraction is referred to rather= than the outer bridi and {remai} I still have to repeat {zasti}. {cimai} i= t's not very concise.

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