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2011/1/26 Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com>

> Unless we have some rational alternate option,
>

I'll try to be rational. I feel, that the talking of the "day of week", is
not rational; we are talking about the events, that taking place at that
day, not the day itself. So, we'll find, that the most rational scheme for
naming that is "de'i li D:J:M:N" or "de'i li N:M:J:D" modulo the choice of
":".

Would we have the nice calendar, with months starting at the same day of
week, we'd used "de'i li no" for that day. Good choice of ":" would allow us
to address the rest of the needed places. Plain "pi'e" gives
"de'ipi'epi'emy" for the month, which isn't nice. "de'i li D xi J pi'e M pi
N" is a bit better, so, "de'i li pi N" refers to the year, "de'i li pi'e M"
to the month. The problem is the unnatural use of "pi", that can be fixed
with the reversed order: "de'i li N pi M J D". That way, we can skip the
rest of the delimiters, saying MJD part fits in just 3 digits. Than we again
need some shortcut for the day, for example "de'i li ji'i pa".

Adopting such a system to our strange calendar is straitforward: write the
day of month with radix 7, considering the least significant digit to be
"day of week" if the "week" digit is missing or is vague.

Now, for those of us, that want to be natlangish, we can derive the most
rational scheme of day/week/month naming: "la [ de'i [ li ] ] (PA+)". with
dotside, or la (PA+)(d|j|m) without.

-- 
pe'i mi'e lex mu'o

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/1/26 Lindar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com">lindarthebard@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</=
span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
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Unless we have some rational alternate option,<br></blockquote></div><br>I&=
#39;ll try to be rational. I feel, that the talking of the &quot;day of wee=
k&quot;, is not rational; we are talking about the events, that taking plac=
e at that day, not the day itself. So, we&#39;ll find, that the most ration=
al scheme for naming that is &quot;de&#39;i li D:J:M:N&quot; or &quot;de&#3=
9;i li N:M:J:D&quot; modulo the choice of &quot;:&quot;. <br>
<br>Would we have the nice calendar, with months starting at the same day o=
f week, we&#39;d used &quot;de&#39;i li no&quot; for that day.  Good choice=
 of &quot;:&quot; would allow us to address the rest of the needed places. =
Plain &quot;pi&#39;e&quot; gives &quot;de&#39;ipi&#39;epi&#39;emy&quot; for=
 the month, which isn&#39;t nice. &quot;de&#39;i li D xi J pi&#39;e M pi N&=
quot; is a bit better, so, &quot;de&#39;i li pi N&quot;  refers to the year=
, &quot;de&#39;i li pi&#39;e M&quot; to the month. The problem is the unnat=
ural use of &quot;pi&quot;, that can be fixed with the reversed order: &quo=
t;de&#39;i li N pi M J D&quot;.  That way, we can skip the rest of the deli=
miters, saying MJD part fits in just 3 digits. Than we again need  some sho=
rtcut for the day, for example &quot;de&#39;i li ji&#39;i pa&quot;.<br>
<br>Adopting such a system to our strange calendar is straitforward: write =
the day of month with radix 7, considering the least significant digit to b=
e &quot;day of week&quot; if the &quot;week&quot; digit is missing or is va=
gue.<br>
<br>Now, for those of us, that want to be natlangish,  we can derive the mo=
st rational scheme of day/week/month naming: &quot;la [ de&#39;i [ li ] ] (=
PA+)&quot;. with dotside, or la (PA+)(d|j|m) without. <br><br>-- <br>pe&#39=
;i mi&#39;e lex mu&#39;o<br>

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