Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PiXtE-00025L-Nj; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:52:24 -0800 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6sf5747495qwd.16 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:52:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=vdkfI0W6z+u0vp1446oXAsMYJ+jy8pdUFN0KBZ62RTY=; b=So4627GFjROnMVjFcRUThZn1GoOv7XMtj2sJpx+pM6Rg5VmxWwFHd9G2wQf+bb9qbr gpjRDJgo+2RESdNZnVHMYzDdE6ROD8Usswwe2/A8KudLIo9aWK7R0F2lBf7A9mET6d/p sCGu9r/gJXxu7OCZ94IYWU8u1ie9kIELxw7Lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=1MdGt5SIgemnAL731g8N0KzPxMNlSVyVeE/2xYCymSR3vE77FDxuyKtHd2yjosplfe umoQN4P7f3etB7/9EVukWYTRPs0u5wgn517ufKwjYyjTUMBpOisE9nIx7oYE6pgi0qyO 5/4cYm54FjCh31hGAjUcWgfBh97boL/3WlFs0= Received: by 10.229.28.198 with SMTP id n6mr18016qcc.37.1296157923056; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:52:03 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.195.134 with SMTP id ec6ls587075qcb.2.p; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.30.198 with SMTP id v6mr254198qcc.19.1296157921434; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.30.198 with SMTP id v6mr254190qcc.19.1296157920002; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s6si3737826qco.5.2011.01.27.11.51.59; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=soGsjJtDT-4A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=DmizBrIm2pnoh2O2GQAA:9 a=79J-497X-HZF0jtoB9_sgtwDKPkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:44710] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E5/C8-07087-FDCC14D4; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:51:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EAD34C1 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:51:58 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:51:52 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201101250942.26977.phma@phma.optus.nu> <256324.39661.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <256324.39661.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201101271451.54811.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1681 On Tuesday 25 January 2011 10:25:06 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > But I don't think you should equate languages with only a 'few' speakers > to languages with 'many'.=A0 My guide (for fu'ivla, say) always is the > weighted vocabularies of Chinese, English, Spanish, Hindi, Spanish and > Russian - which of course is what were used to derive most gismu. Okay, considering those six (I assume one "Spanish" should be "Arabic"): Chinese uses numbers to name months. English, Spanish, and Russian all use words derived from Latin "ianuarius"= =20 etc. Hindi month names are from English, though a couple are spelled a bit=20 differently (e.g. "Sitember"). Hindi also has names for the months of the= =20 Hindu calendar. Arabic has two sets of names for months in the Gregorian calendar. One is t= he=20 Westernized set and is from Latin. The other is used in Syria; most of them= =20 resemble months of the Jewish calendar and are of Babylonian origin. Arabic= =20 also has names of the Muslim calendar months. Without bothering to figure the weights, that's 4.5 votes for words of Lati= n=20 origin. What's the weighted tally? How much of the Arabic-speaking world us= es=20 the Westernized set? Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.