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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <201101271451.54811.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 98.139.52.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1917 >=20 > On Tuesday 25 January 2011 10:25:06 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > But I don't think you should equate languages with only a 'few' speaker= s > > to languages with 'many'.=A0 My guide (for fu'ivla, say) always is the > > weighted vocabularies of Chinese, English, Spanish, Hindi, Spanish and > > Russian - which of course is what were used to derive most gismu. >=20 > Okay, considering those six (I assume one "Spanish" should be "Arabic"): > Chinese uses numbers to name months. > English, Spanish, and Russian all use words derived from Latin "ianuarius= "=20 > etc. > Hindi month names are from English, though a couple are spelled a bit=20 > differently (e.g. "Sitember"). Hindi also has names for the months of the= =20 > Hindu calendar. > Arabic has two sets of names for months in the Gregorian calendar. One is= the=20 > Westernized set and is from Latin. The other is used in Syria; most of th= em=20 > resemble months of the Jewish calendar and are of Babylonian origin. Arab= ic=20 > also has names of the Muslim calendar months. > Without bothering to figure the weights, that's 4.5 votes for words of La= tin=20 > origin. What's the weighted tally? How much of the Arabic-speaking world = uses=20 > the Westernized set? Pierre, I wasn't arguing for having the months named according to the six m= ain=20 languages.=A0 I had already stated my preference for {pavmasti} etc. I did however, object to your frequent use of the number of languages to=20 justify whatever without taking the number of speakers into account. totus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.